Lufthansa 787 COLLAPSES at the Gate! - Pilot Reacts
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A Lufthansa Boeing 787-9 Dreamliner suffered a nose landing gear collapse while parked at a gate at Frankfurt Airport around 12:45 p.m. local time on June 4. The aircraft was preparing to operate flight LH450 from Frankfurt to Los Angeles when the nose gear suddenly gave way, causing the front of the aircraft to drop onto the ramp.
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Key facts known so far:
The aircraft involved was a Boeing 787-9 Dreamliner.
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It was parked at the gate and not moving.
Passengers had not yet boarded.
Was Dr Evil on the design team? Almost seems like it was designed with intent.
Several crew members and ground personnel were injured and received medical treatment.
The scheduled flight to Los Angeles was canceled.
Ridiculous design failure. With all the sensor capability of the past 10 years particularly - nothing should allow a retract if the wheel is on the ground.
Lufthansa and the relevant authorities have opened an investigation into the cause.
Video circulating online appears to show the nose gear retracting or collapsing unexpectedly while the aircraft was stationary. Some aviation observers have noted similarities to a 2021 British Airways 787 incident at Heathrow, where an improperly positioned nose gear downlock pin allowed the nose gear to retract while the aircraft was on the ground. However, there is currently no evidence that the Frankfurt event was caused by the same issue, and investigators have not released any findings.
Absolutely unbelievable that a brand spankin' new aircraft doesn't have the solution for an issue, which has been known for years, installed before hand-over to the customer. I work as a test engineer in the agricultural industry. If we run into safety-critical issues, where people may be injured or killed, we will have a solution designed, tested and rolled out to dealers/ customers within weeks to months - not 3 years... Absolutely mind-boggling and certainly nothing to build trust in aviation safety
One detail that makes this especially noteworthy is that the aircraft appears to have been very new. Multiple reports identify it as D-ABPQ ("Herne"), a Dreamliner delivered to Lufthansa earlier this year.
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Lol tried to raise the landing gear
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@chakchoilawrencecheung1576THEN FIX IT........Boeing Strikes Again...........Boeing needs a TOTAL review At All LEVELS...DO NOT FLY BOEING
@haroldk724Idk why Capt Steve didnât explain why on earth would someone in the cockpit pull the gear up lever while on the ground. Iâm sure itâs already been asked, but I just canât scan all 4,000+ comments. Anyone know the answer?
@paxworldI havenât watched the hole video yet but thought I needed to comment now before I forget to ask and you might explain it farther into it, but the # 1 engine looks like itâs rotating or running if you focus on it as itâs falling and also like you said if the engine didnât hit the ground it sure missed a really good chance to hit the ground lol
@WilliamByrd-r1eAll due respect, but if you look at the homepage of Boeing....yeah you see why this is happening.
Let's be even more inclusive of incompetent virtue-signaling HR departments
Thanks to god that no body was hurt.. but am sad that a new plane which entered service in feb . Gets damaged . Due to such reason
@anbaha5793Design issue .. 787 suffered the same fate . The nose gear retraction system needs a serious alterations .
@anbaha5793This gear handle test is the dumbest thing in aviation since The Wrong Brothers.
@erickborling1302The Boeing solution is obviously inadequate ... the proof being it happened again ... they probably need a sensor in the correct pin bore that confirms that a pin is in the bore before the gear will retract is they are overriding the weight on wheels and trying to retracting the gear ... I honestly would have thought this would be the design from the get go ... but we are talking Boeing post McDonald Douglas merger ... so bolts and QA are optional ...
@rackbitesThe front fell off! That's very uncommon.
@power21100It really is not "that easy to have happen"!
1. Follow the Aircraft Maintenance Manual (It actually has PICTURES!)
2. Second set of eyes always!
*A&P since '83, last 25 years working 727, 757, 767, 777, DC-10, MD-10, MD-11, A300, A310
A nowadays' fully computerized airliner shouldn't retract its undercarriage under any circumstance while wheels are on the ground and shocks under pressure. There shouldn't be pins needed to be installed in order to avoid results of human error.
@Dokker62Plane tired, plane going to sleep. Plane has jetlag đ€Ł
@Klebe99336644If it is Boeing I ain't going
@mailweb123mailweb123Nose retracting that happened on all three different airlines are the same 787s. It's questionable. đ€
@Alan-u8t4mWhat does a repair like this run?
@f.m.2646Another Boeing built aircraft??!!! What in the he double hockey sticks is going on with their quality control department?? Unacceptable, and absolutely frightening.
@andsoitbegins464Seems to me that there should be a check of the weight-on-gear sensor prior to gear retraction regardless of what happens with the gear knob.
@scodavisif its boeing i still aint going
@hifijohnboing......
@JavaRuudI learned during flight school that the landing gear has a load cell, under load the gear would not retract. So i'm surprised it is possible. Learned something new.
@maupert75A few things with this.
Being a newer 787 it would most definitely have the nose gear link service bulletin to prevent incorrect pin installation, so I doubt that is the issue.
I believe this is a maintenance issue and they likely skipped the pin installation while doing their work. Those forward nose doors were open, which is a NON normal condition when the gear is fully down and locked. To open those on ground you have to arm and open them via the p40 panel to get nose bay access, so they were very likely doing maintenance.
Most normal processes to close those nose doors is also from the p40 panel with center hydraulics, so them using the gear handle makes me think they had the same issues that required the same "reset" on the nose by using the gear handle instead of that p40.
Easy fix = use two pins =
Cheap = doesnât take 3 years
so why are they doing a retract test on a turn and burn flight?
@craigpalatchie2607since the plane landed on the conveyor for the luggage,I wonder if that was lifted high enough, and hitting the plane, that the sensors in the nosegear, simply thought it wasn't on the ground?
@politiknedefraafthomasrisu5502The author of the video wants to tell us that the landing gear pin is installed manually after each take-off and landing? Do you believe it yourself? Or maybe the reason is that the landing gear is made of titanium. And the largest manufacturer of titanium for aircraft was Russia. But for some time now, titanium production in Russia has been under sanctions, aircraft manufacturers have begun to buy titanium of insufficient good quality? When the landing gear starts to break during takeoff and landing, will aircraft manufacturers start buying good titanium?
@ottobeneke2859Wow is it possible a boeing product is faulty??!! #bananarepublic
@noobishsiteGerman press today: "According to sources familiar with the matter, the error message displayed the code "MLG DOOR NORM CLOSE SOL L WITH MM: âŠ" â an indication of a malfunction in the landing gear doors. This is a technical status or maintenance message. "MLG" stands for Main Landing Gear. "SOL" refers to an electromechanical valve that controls the flow of hydraulic fluid to the actuators that physically open and close the landing gear doors. It remains unclear whether a final landing gear check was performed before the planned transatlantic flight to LAX." As an aside, they are referencing the erroneous pin placement as the cause of earlier events and mention that the plane was defueled, lifted, and was towed to a hangar on its own wheels, confirming that the landing gear did not suffer collapse but indeed was retracted.
@hazayadI wonder why they were all dreamliners
@pradiptosensarma1672I always thought landing gear could not retract with the weight of the aircraft on the landing gear. Meaning it had an over center design so the gear extends slightly before retracting
@tombushman8029"Remove before flight"
@farayidarlingtonchaparadza20I don't believe these spoken person is really a pilot of any airline.
@harrybattista1437Since this plane is only six months old, I would have expected Boeing to have permanently resolved this issue by now, making a misplaced pin impossible.
@vw3783Even without pin installed it's not supposed to retract if you put the gear handle up because of the WOW (weight on wheels) , unless the Aircraft is made on flight mode and cheaters installed on prox sensors.
@jaguar122312:06 ish⊠and those two legs you saw there yeah that could be an issue⊠paraphrasing of course. HilariousâŠCaptain I know you meant no disrespect by that.
@bigdukesix4161Don't use the AI translation in german. It's TERRIBLE!!
@kennenMedienAny Chance Homer Simpson was in that cockpit?
@BuleddeThree strikes and you're out. C'mon Boeing you can't blame the brand-new plane but the engineering. Why not make those holes different size so the nose gear pin only fits into the appropriate hole. Make it like diesel and gas if your car takes gas the diesel nozzle will not fit into your fuel tank. Easy fix and no I am not an engineer. (I know, I'm facetious).
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Was haben die denn alle geraucht?? In jeder Flugzeug-Lande-Checkliste steht: "Gear down AND locked"!! Und soweit ich weiss, ist es auch unmöglich, das Fahrwerk von so grossen Flugzeugen versehentlich einzuziehen, wenn Gewicht auf dem Fahrwerk steht (evtl. gibt es sogar so eine Sicherung heutzutage in winzigen Kleinflugzeugen!). Sabotage ist nicht versichert, geschweige denn ohnehin sittenwidrig Vollkasko-versichert!! Waren da etwa wieder solche Verdi-Steinzeit-Proleten-Revoluzzer an der Rampe wie der Braunrote-ArmeefraktionsTerrorist in DĂŒsseldorf am Vorfeld, der 2011/2012 einen schweren Fussball mehrmals an eine Airbus-Bordwand donnerte, genau in dem Bereich, wo sich der ultrakritische Attitude-Sensor befindet, damals streikte die raubmordsozialistische Verdi-Kloake auch, diese Grundschuldropouts, die sowieso niemand irgendwo auch bereits wegen schreiender charakterlicher Uneignung (exakt wie die drastisch Verfassungs-widrigen Schmierenterror-Gewerkschafter!!) brauchen kann, geschweige denn am Flughafen!!? - kurz danach wurde AirBerlin dicht gemacht!đ€đ€!, ich wollte eigentlich nur, dass dieser gefĂ€hrliche SabotageTerrorist am Vorfeld in den Knast kommt!! Hier & @jake00574 wird es genau erklĂ€rt (es scheint sogar das linke Hauptfahrwerk etwas miteingeklappt zu sein : https://youtu.be/656xoyj4kIw?is=4nGRS4Od77k8-ecI . Der 400 millionen US$$ Flieger is vrmtl. nunmehr irreparabler Schrott !! Bei einem TWA-Airbus flog mal angeblich in Florida das nachgeklebte Composite-Seitenleitwerk
katastrophal weg in midair !! eof.
You donât have the full video, were it shows the nose gear doors open and then it collapses!
@HunterDFtwoA pin?? A simple pin caused this?? There are way too many responsibilities to get these planes up in the air!!
@lioraoppenheimer9881Why no interlocking to detect wheels on the ground and prevent retraction even if the gear up position is selected.
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