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Is Getting Rich Luck or Hard Work? | Millionaires vs. Middle Class Debate

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3 members of the middle class and 3 millionaires debate topics like Is the American Dream dead? Is America the greatest country on earth? and Are there institutional barriers that prevent some people from becoming successful?

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TIMECODES:

0:00 - 0:35 - Intro

22:22 LIB ON LIB CRIME😂😂😂😂😂

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0:36 - 9:44 - Success is not accessible for everyone

9:45 - 20:10 - The American Dream is dead

20:23 how long were you waiting to blurt that out?😂😂😂😂 not your land any anymore

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20:11 - America is the greatest country on earth

#debate #millionaire #middleclass #americandream #discussion #discourse #argument #liberal #republican #rich

THERE IS NO CURE TO VICTIM MENTALITY

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More User Perspectives

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What a line - you are accepting the system cause it has worked for you!

@NisargaNagaraj-q1z
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Hard work is what other people do to make them rich

@paulstack2431
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How to get rich: figure out the sytem and play it

@bebo2490
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The people who are poor and think there’s nothing they can do will do nothing and stay poor! Poor people who believe they can work to get rich will. Simply mindset

@sfglunywand8042
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There is nothing stopping anyone from going to school paying attention, surrounding themselves with good people, getting good grades and going to college and making a career for themselves whether it be working for someone or creating their own business. The only thing stopping them are their own decisions. Its all choices. If you choose to be successful and put in the work you will be successful. If you are born into poverty no one is going to hand you success you have to make the opportunity happen for yourself. No one owes you anything, Its just the way the world works. Sure some people are born into success by having success passed on to them from their families but just because someone out there had it easier than you doesn't mean its not possible for you. Opportunity can be created through hard work and it isnt always easy.

@cybersteady
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Two ways of making wealth.. you use creative thinking or use fiscial work ... You get paid for thinking or get paid for making.. two different way of living... Think and having good ideas pays better ... Money is something that we should learn how it works ... There's is people building wealth from scratch.. the difference is they know or learn how money operates in a financial system and look to solve human kind needs to set a successful source of createing wealth.. investing knowledge also.. government doesn't make people rich..

@danielflow-e2t
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The rich are just responsible, practical and chose to adabt while the middle class are stuck in their self victimization and social moral beliefs

@Frono3888
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Getting rich is self-denial and planning for a tomorrow you are not guaranteed.

@retheisen
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Stopped taking the women seriously when she said white supremacy

@Frono3888
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This started to turn into an American success topic and moved away from the topic of success is luck vs hard work

@theafist173
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The honest answer is it's a little bit of both of these things.

@TheMightyCookieShow
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In life you play the cards you are dealt or don’t play. If you offer value, you will be rewarded eventually.

@LemonScreech
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Some people will blame everything for their failure, but some people use their failure to be successful

@upinoyatbp.5165
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These people got exactly what they deserve

@moseskoo4551
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It would be nice to know each of the Panel members background briefly to better understand their answers

@themorgster321
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1st topic and they’re already complaining about public transpo and using a car as if having a car in this country is a barrier. The poorest of the poor in the US can afford to get a car. You can buy one for $500. There are even people donating cars! This is unheard of anywhere else! In many countries like where I migrated from you have to be upper middle class to he able to afford one!

@peds103
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I don’t have time to listen to people IN AMERICA who say they just can’t get ahead. It makes my skin crawl to know there are such people out there and that I have to support them with my taxes and with higher prices for the stuff I buy.

@ErroneousMonk1
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7 minutes in and this is puke 🤮 inducing

@Blueprint_-xw2mx
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Right off the bat Geo failed to understand what Ben was actually saying

@alexanderrobinson9971
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Dumbest video I have seen in a long time. Basically means nothing. These millionaires are idiots.

@Rewneko
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These Ladys are victims in their mind.

@frenschDensch
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Christina “you think you’re accepting of the system because it’s worked for you”

Flip that upside down! Are you willing to work within the system so it will be accepting of you!?

You can either learn how to play the game or sit at home and complain about the rules or waste time trying to change them.

@rsixx6548
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Is hard for people to hear that people that have money and assets get much better opportunities in life..... Is a realistic for a multimillionaire father NOT to give opportunities to his children and family? I still think that this country gives the chance to lower income bracket the chance you wouldn't get anywhere else in the world.

@PabloGonzalez-oq8xf
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They did this video all wrong. You needed three black millionaires there to combat any “system system” holding them back.

@doughhandel
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Mindset.

@doughhandel
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Do you just roll over and accept your circumstances? Stay in the hood etc...Or do you want to change your circustamstances. Because where you came from was the example to do better? My family came from nothing. And worked their way through the systems. My Dad told me if it wasnt for affirmative action he wouldnt have had the success he had. It's affected him grealty. And generationly if your mom was poor, your dad was poor....more than likely...monkey see monkey do. So the left side can't sit here and cry when they have not said anything that they have done to get themselves out of their circumstances. The right side did everything they could to have the courage to change their circumstances. They had a goal that became their north star. The left side has complaints and not solutions. The right has solutions to their complaints. And willing to take accountability. The left side does not. It can be achieved. Vladamir has it right. Be Vlad. The left side just has excuses. Poor me. Lack mentality. You can't blame being a certain race and say oh well...it's because. Okay well there is your answer. Be the exception in your life. Be the change you want to see. Wealth can be many things. But comparison is the theif of joy.

@oceanwolfca
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It’s discipline. If it was luck or privilege, that lottery ticket that I bought would have hit, or that $20 I spent on blackjack in Vegas would have hit. I worked a regular job along side my coworkers who made the same as I did. While they bought multiple cars, houses and traveled, lived below my means, saved and invested. Today my investments and retirement is well into the millions, theirs isn’t. We both had the same starting point. Doing what it takes to make it to the finish line doesn’t make me privileged.

@AbbyC543
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It’s not a set thing but a number of things. The system overall is geared toward a slow pace growth to wealth. However, there is support for many ways to speed up the pace. I know in my own experience it’s not what you know only, but who you know as well. Some of these people are born in networks that bestow upward mobility paths. Yes systems work against people, however movements are never just straight in any approach.

@kid_rajah
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As a non millionaire I low key agree with the millionaires on this one the regular people were complaining and the millionaires were just saying that things are how they are and make it happen regardless

@proudtobeapothead
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Bens first take was too stupid 🙄

@malaikalovee
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Starting off is a matter of luck for sure, but where you end up is a matter of a whole series of outcomes and you control most of them. Obviously you need to be healthy but overall luck is when discipline meets an opportunity. You can argue systemic things put in place but if you sacrifice today, tomorrow’s gain will come if not for you directly then for your family and that’s the reason why we push. For a better tomorrow.

@tizzy6
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I hate the word privilege because it’s saying you didn’t work for it. A guy is always saying we’re privileged to be in the state we live in, I’m thinking I lived in a trailer raised by my grandma I worked for this I earned my way here. I had a regular job not on the level of these people and I still made it

@john5712
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5:25 is the other way around. If you understand and play the system, it will work for you.

@theSolomonar
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Instead of having aVictim mentality, you accept and understand the hands you are dealt and work on solutions. Sure it’s luck, but having a mindset help tremendously

@zacchk
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I’m a 41-year-old Black American, born into abject poverty. The only thing that stopped me from advancing in this life has been me and my stubbornness. Even with that… I have zero debt. I own (not lease/finance) a vehicle that can autonomously drive me to and from work. I can take any trip I want on a moment’s notice. I didn’t get here by blaming slavery, white peoples, society, etc. for my short comings. If you’re reading this, it’s you. It’s you that is stopping you from succeeding in this life. You must unalive that person to become the person you want to be. The alternative that these people keep pushing is socialism. It has not and will never work because of human nature. That nature is built into all humans. We all recognize that if someone gets the same pay/resources as you… they better be putting in the same work/effort… and that’s why socialism always fails.

@SGxShadow
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I feel like it's a mental shift I was starting a record label, Lawncare, car auctions, first job, getting my DBA ein by 14 just from reading 📚 & we was poor, luck is something you make, but when yo fam wealthy that's called privileged & that was what middle-class was to me since we were renters I own now but nobody gave me anything until I didn't need it

@playarabbit
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It’s a mindset for sure. I’m a 401k millionaire. If you aren’t investing and you don’t prioritize owning a home your net worth will be nonexistent

@RIPCelts2025
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Focus on being productive

@bernardmccole3215
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I would've loved to see a female millionaire on this debate as well, i think views from that perspective would be pretty valuable here

@Junaid88Nkuna
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It appears the two young women here want to be right.

@rawmike-k8h
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I hope the middle class side had taken the contacts of the millionaires side to catch up with them later and try to maybe sell them and make money.

@aniu87
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I’m not rich yet but I totally agree with the right side
There are doers and complainers
Simple

@JackPorrett
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7:49 no one made mothers single parents and no one forced anybody to take/sell drugs.

@LuccRich
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Nothing is impossible by any means., but I will say I have a cousin who is a nepo baby and never worked a day in his life., his father my uncle, who I respect. Built an automation company into an empire probably worth 50 million net worth. His son inherited all he did was play hockey his entire life until 37 semi pro. Barely got paid. But now he runs the empire and gets all the fruits of his father’s labor. He has the new corvette and 7000 sq foot house 🏠 multiple trips every year… etc. me I have multiple trade tickets etc but grew up poor. I have a house etc. but the point is money can make up ground so fast. My cousin is an idiot 😂 and he is living life like a rockstar. All because he was born into 💵. Thats my 2 cents

@Jimineychristmas6969
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Its all about i have more trauma and a harder life now. That doesnt get you anywhere.

@kebokev7519
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Accessibility to knowledge……😂

I had a roommates in college like this. They could stay up all night playing video games and smoking weed instead of bettering themselves.

They dropped out and went to a community college. They make shit money now and constantly complain about how the system is rigged.

@Z7GFX