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Patric Gagne is the author of "Sociopath: A Memoir."
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From a young age, she knew there was something different about herself. She didn't feel emotions the same way other kids did. To avoid stigma and to fit in, she learned to hide her true self. She tells Business Insider about breaking into homes and stealing cars to relieve the pressure of hiding. Gagne discusses the difference between sociopaths and psychopaths, traits of famous characters like Netflix's Wednesday Addams and Dexter, and how to talk to loved ones about sociopathy.
She's a former therapist and holds a doctorate in clinical psychology from The Chicago School.
"How does feeling feel like for you?" - Patric Gagne
What a great question if you want to understand your kids, friends, partner etc. or even yourself.
Today, she's married with two children, but she's still trying to fight the stigma neurotypical people still associate with her.
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I am so glad that we seem to move into a direction where humans can be honest about being themselves more and more because it only has positives.
"Society" starts to unterstand that every human thinks and experiences this universe quite differently.
And because everyone is different, everyone has different needs, but also brings different views and skills to the table. This world is so much more complex and the sooner we stop trying to put others and ourselves into neat little boxes, the better.
Yes, this means more complex problems but also more and better solutions....individual solutions that will lead to a better life for everyone and, in the end, the world will be so much richer because of it.
PS:
Can't wait for the times when humans understand other humans AND themselves better and all of our hundreds of fallacies and biases that warp every thought we have. And I think we need something like the scientific method for "thinking" and decision making.
I think if we understand how fallible humans really are we can finally be more humble and reduce arrogance and ignorance. And this will also lead to a society, where we are way more willing to help each other instead of constantly thinking "We are right, and they are wrong" and then fighting about it.
Because the probable reality is, that we are both wrong! :)
And this will hopefully then also lead to a world where people stop putting themselves and others into boxes of "Republican" or "Democrat", "Left" or "Right", American or European etc. pp.
And then humans will hopefully stop blindly following a few "leaders" "oligarchs" and this "Authoritarianism" and understand that YOU are as important as all of he rich and powerful. And guess what happens then? Once we stop viewing them as "powerful" they get less powerful!
And it will lead to a way fairer world.
I mean it is better then 100 years ago, even better then 200 years ago etc.
So, we are on a good way...but it would be really nice if we would speed a little bit up! ;)
https://patricgagne.com/sociopath/
For more about: "Sociopath: A Memoir"
This does mean a lot , to give many people hope that there is a chance they can learn to understand and manage the thoughts, impulses, and behaviors. Thank you
https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Sociopath/Patric-Gagne/9781668003183
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Her eyes looked so h
Joyful when she recounted stabbing that other child😩😩
Society for the Scientific Study of Psychopathy
00:00 - Intro
I like her...i could easily see myself helping someone at the grocery store w/their bill, not to be kind, but simply to keep the line moving.
NOW i do have a strong sense of right and wrong, So yes , I would feel guilty about something I thought was bad.... But would NOT feel guilty at all about something, I did not think was bad.
I don't really care what people think of me, EXCEPT the person who signs my paychecks.
All in all , I feel like a pretty normal person😊
00:32 - Am I A Sociopath?
02:01 - Childhood
There's a few more diagnoses that could be applied here. The brain is an organ unlike the others in our body. It too needs to be monitored but more in depth as to protect ones self and society. At my junior senior age now and with the many decades of the observance of this "topic" I am not surprised anymore by the negative impact of the brain whose effects toward the affected impact has on us all. Her words make for a superb case study and may she stay wrapped in her warm cocoon.
07:13 - Self-Medicating
12:02 - The Diagnosis
This one. Oh boy... there is a such thing and dark and light. This one is dark and justified
18:44 - Delaying Pleasure
20:54 - The Psychology
My next door neighbor is a narcissist sociopath and definitely thrives on harming people. It’s gross to watch her in action. She doesn’t care.
22:54 - The Perks
27:59 - The Relationships
Sociopaths are normal people that have a demon(s) in them. Documented spiritual deliverances with redirected values by the individual proves this is true. A drive that gets satisfaction only through doing harm to innocent people further supports it.
31:39 - The Parenting
34:10 - The Movies
The point about relationships is very powerful. The fact that they were able to have honest conversations about her “limits” or her “condition” meant they were both saying “I can trust you”’ and “I can be myself with you and that’s ok” In my experience relationship issues can come up when there's a lack of psychological safety. Often it comes out as “I shouldn’t feel this way so I won’t admit this to my partner. It’s dangerous to admit this” and that’s how we go down a path of splitting away from the other person.
39:49 - The Tools
43:20 - The Future
Hmmm its a Catch 22. I don’t think family are the people to be caring for these individuals. What is happening is a power struggle within a sociopathic individual. When they feel insecure, they want your security. And caring individuals are usually the ones who want to help. So, if you have extra time, money or energy to part with great. But you need to understand, sociopaths are addicted to their own affirmations and will minimize you to feel better. So, if you take that risk, you should know the risk because they wont tell you. ❤
47: 39 - Credits
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minute 2 - 6 the recipe for creating life long problems in children and for the world.
1. dont take time to understand ur child or get help
2. the child protects themselves and it goes downhill from there
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The 16 Tribes of Man
Environmental Advantage and Intelligence Cognitive Adaptations (MBTI correlation)
Predatory Systematic (INTP and ISTP)
Predatory Simplistic (ISTJ and ISFJ)
Predatory Refinement (INFP and ISFP)
Predatory Complexity (INTJ and INFJ)
Parasitic Systematic (ENTJ and ESTJ)
Parasitic Simplistic (ESTP and ESFP)
Parasitic Refinement (ENFJ and ESFJ)
Parasitic Complexity (ENTP and ENFP)
Symbiotic Systematic (ENTJ and ESTJ)
Symbiotic Simplistic (ESTP and ESFP)
Symbiotic Refinement (ENFJ and ESFJ)
Symbiotic Complexity (ENTP and ENFP)
Synergetic Systematic (INTP and ISTP)
Synergetic Simplistic (ISTJ and ISFJ)
Synergetic Refinement (INFP and ISFP)
Synergetic Complexity (INTJ and INFJ)
Memory Formatting Cognitive Motivators:
1. Necessity vs Unnecessary
2. Desirable vs Undesirable
3. Knowledgeable vs Ignorance
4. Capability vs Ineptitude
5. Sequencing vs Categorizing
6. Eidetic vs Condensed
7. Opportunistic vs Equitable
8. Dominance vs Conformity
Perception= Unnecessary Desirable
Determination= Necessity Desirable
Judgement= Necessity Undesirable
Principle= Unnecessary Undesirable
Submissive= Knowledgeable Ineptitude
Assertive= Knowledgeable Capability
Withdrawn= Ignorance Capability
Dismissive= Ignorance Ineptitude
Refinement= Condensed Categorizing
Complexity= Condensed Sequencing
Systematic= Eidetic Sequencing
Simplistic= Eidetic Categorizing
Symbiotic= Equitable Conformity
Synergetic= Equitable Dominance
Predatory= Opportunistic Dominance
Parasitic= Opportunistic Conformity
Human psychology exist in a spectrum where select clusters of people will have the advantage based on their cognitive capacity to deal with their environment.
Type is influenced by the parents but is not fixed to genetics. Each individual uses 16 cognitive processes which are formed by 16 different cognitive functions.
There are 64 different possible psychological adaptations. Some of those types have overlapping traits which allows for synchronization and collaboration.
Humanity is not made to coexist alongside all other psychological types. All types have an opposition types. The more one tribes environmental circumstances are made ideal for them the more their opposites will struggle and suffer.
No particular tribe is superior however some tribes are not suited for existence amongst those who make civilization possible.
Each tribe is meant to be segregated with only few being capable of harmony and peace with other tribes.
Not all tribes have to exist or have a population. Humanity is meant to adapt to the best psychology for their prosperity. Those unfit are meant to die out through natural selection.
• Parasitic psychological types are motivated to seek infiltration and/or appropriation of identity in order to gain access to privilege and/or virtues they will never earn for themselves.
• Predatory psychological types are motivated to develop advantages and exploitations in spite of any and all detriment to the others or the environment.
• Symbiotic psychological types are motivated to conform to an identity and form a collective which will allow them to thrive together as they would be incapable of competition individually.
• Synergetic psychological types strive for self sufficiency and independence for the purpose of never becoming a burden on others or their environment to allow for systemic efficiency.
• Systematic psychological types are advantaged under heavily structured and predictable environments. They hold a preference for systematic order and rigid adherence because they would otherwise perform poorly as their intelligence is slow to process the unknown.
• Simplistic psychological types favor simplistic lifestyles which require very little need for complex thought. In such conditions they develop superior motor skills and identifications. This allows them to sustain a life through mastery of their environment.
• Refinement psychological types favor environments where there is freedom to develop reason through trial and error. Unlike other types they do have the capacity to learn from mistakes and make improvements in order to adapt to ever changing ecosystems.
• Complexity psychological types are people best suited for seemingly complicated and chaotic environments. They specialize in critical thinking and problem solving which allow them navigate the unknown. They develop foresight and gage potential to achieve desirable outcomes.
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To be fair, nobody would care about others after peeing themselves😂
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I kind of envy her. It must be nice to not be ruled by your emotions.
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Taken at face value, this really helps me relate to what it's like to experience life with this kind of brain setup. Thank you for sharing!
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In other words, she's that person who'll betray you in the zombie apocalypse.😂
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You will not get the truth about what it's like being a sociopath from a sociopath.
@henrik5284Bullshitter puts herself on blast. Wild.
@wltyeI'll bet money that her husband is the son of a female sociopath
@matteogsysThis psychological "bible" puts Trans people on there aswell; causing major problems with trans healthcare and enormous waiting lists in some countries. Bible my *ss
@ruadeil_zabelinNow I want to know if you were that girl who stabbed me when I was a kid. I still have the blue mark to show for it. 😂
@kirstenlandon3043I remember two incidents from my childhood very clearly: The first one was when a close acquaintance showed me a birthday gift for his mother on the way back from school. This guy was one of the popular ones in school and had not invited me to his birthday party. On this day, I had been bullied (as usual), and I felt this rage and unrest in me. Long story short, I took the present and didn't give it back. He tried to get it from me, but to no avail. I left him standing there and felt this rush of satisfaction, of fulfilled revenge. It felt good to be able to hurt him and cause him pain. After I came home, I hid the present in my room and dreamt all afternoon about other methods to hurt him and all the others.
The other one was when I was waiting for the bus after school together with some other kids and sat on my school bag, reading a comic book, and this guy comes up to be and starts bothering me. I tried for quite some time to solve the matter peacefully, but he kept on picking on me and when he snatched the comic boom from me, something snapped. I lunged at him and saw red, in the literal sense. My vision was blurry and red, and I got him by the throat and choked him. My vision was returning to normal, and it felt good to see him flail and gasp for air. Other kids tried to get me off him, but they didn't succeed, and I kept on choking the guy, whose face was crimson red at this time and whose eyes started rolling back. Then the bus came, and I got off him and got on the bus. I have thought about this for all my life, and I'm sure that if the others hadn't been there and the bus hadn't come, I would have possibly killed him. Maybe I'm a sociopath as well.
if someone who "calmed down" after stabbing someone I don't want to imagine what they are capable to do cause they feel under pressure once they are older. very much damaging and dangerous. trying to gaslighting people into what she did was normal and acting like she doesn't want to romantize it. dismissing people's feelings yes she may not feel it like we normal people do but she knows it is wrong and still be like "wrong time wrong place". damage is more than physical also she was physical but whatever
@bberfuuI found myself listening to you, and actually liking you. I didn't want to, but your description of parenting was great. My mother got to bent out of shape at the stupid things I did, and my grades. The things I didn't do well really bothered her, yes, they bothered me, but I never wanted to live my life for others. I wanted to please her, and my Dad, but in the final analysis, it is, and was my life.
I am not a sociopath, as I really do feel empathy, and I am very sensitive, but I don't want to live for others. I also don't, and didn't want to steel a car, among other things. I will read your book.
😂😂😂😂 She is ridiculous. Her husband puts up with her bc she's beautiful (pissing at the white house. Give a break. She didn't care and was happy to make him uncomfortable. Yippee!!!) I say of course I care about my children's grades. No she doesn't she enjoys looking DOWN ON HER CHILD...😑 Wednesday is AFICTIONAL CHARACTER, I liked Dexter too as a FIXTIONAL CHARACTER! She is a narcissist.
@debracroy7724Look at her eyes! Completely dead. No emotion. I've seen this before and it wasn't pleasant.
@itsjustme8947Those dead eyes
@jaysee7951When I first put this on and saw her face I knew she was, even before she spoke
@CamiSeta-r4q8bSome people are too emotional and they want you to feel the same way they feel and everyone is unique and feel things different and it's okay
@saoirseandreapatriciacrowl506I always loved to feel myself good and some people like judging me when I didn't do anything seriously bad and they never helped me in anything either, I just enjoy feeling happy with myself, living life, listening music, wearing sporty clothes, being judgemental sometimes too when they get judgemental to me..
@saoirseandreapatriciacrowl506I admire her accepting her mental disorder and working on her manias until controlling them and overcoming them somehow, she's having these issues almost under control and that's very admirable from her
@saoirseandreapatriciacrowl506Wow she should know she shouldn't enter in other people's houses because it's against the law and it sounds crazy. I would enjoy spending time in my own house and not breaking in other houses at all
@saoirseandreapatriciacrowl506It's a good feeling harming someone who hurts you, I think everyone wants to feel strong and defend yourself if someone makes you wrong. Many kids lie just like adults and they use their childish charm to manipulate adults as well.
@saoirseandreapatriciacrowl506Seems to me her profound detachment is a healthy thing for us people pleasers to practice as a skill; hers is an innate trait.
@ຈິຕຕະຈິຕຕັງNGL. I like the detachment. Problem to solve and i solve it aspect.
@ຈິຕຕະຈິຕຕັງAs someone who is a sociopath, I could recognize her as a one, seeing it her eyes and face within 5 seconds.
@Mike-bk6ukGagne says she cannot think of any specific childhood trauma. However her book suggests her Mom was unhappily married and often had emotional outbursts and crying fits away from others. Gagne's Dad was a music executive and often gone from the house and at odd hours which made his wife lonely and unhappy.
@protamine4Cannot get past dead eyed people. Their eyes are chilling.
@JTCT371Sociopaths listen to the devil on their shoulder. The question is why they make that choice, instead of the opposite choice.
@GramGramGenX-ln5scThat sounds pretty serial killer-esque to me
@hem0hemVery thought-provoking video. Thank you.
@ErgoSumbodyYou obviously have good metacognitive awareness, and are able to describe your experience very clearly. I appreciate these things.
@ErgoSumbodyI do not agree that empathy is entirely taught. It is evident in very young humans and it is evident in other species.
@ErgoSumbodyI don't think this woman is a sociopath. I think she wants to be a sociopath. There's too many contradictory explanations and optical cues that she definitely is not.
@amob13I think the closest thing she has of a normal person felling is how she feels about her husband. Love is a powerful thing.
@camillanascimentoperes6466I blow up like a nuke for 30 irrational seconds, but everything in my, or my target,, something getting smashed…. Inanimate objects…. Now. Food is a big one
@BlackwoodGhost1971Fascinating. How do you tell someone you think they should get tested for this disorder?
@rose52anneShe helped someone with the groceries and didn’t want people to react? Doesn’t sociopaths only do what’s required or what’s advantageous to them such as showing off to other people? She not only did something altruistic but made an example of it as what a sociopath would do. Strange?
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