Federal Prison Camp Versus a Low Security Prison
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I am a retired surgeon. I have also developed a statistical medical chart analysis program that ASSIGNS point values to various features of chart notes. For that reason, I have been occasionally hired by attorneys who are representing inmates who alleged "improper medical/surgical care" and they have received damages as a result of my analyses. I am not writing this to look for business. I am very successfully retired and do not need more money.
That said, sometimes I do take cases if I can see a real "injustice" as the result of improper medical care. My specialty is circulatory conditions and orthopedic and (improper) surgical treatment of the lower extremities. I also have connections with other surgeons and counsel who might consider taking inmate's cases in other medical/surgical classifications.
Parenthetically, I took my surgical residency at Munson Army Hospital and Wadsworth VA Hospital (now unfortunately closed), during the Vietnam War times.
I took care of inmates at the National Disciplinary Barracks in Leavenworth during my training. I honestly tried to treat them all with the same respect and care that I would provide ANY other patients. I found them extraordinarily grateful and appreciative of my care. I did not know what they were "in for" and it was never disclosed to me. They were in shackles and handcuffs.
This was my only experience treating inmates. They never failed to thank me.
Sanjosemike (no longer in CA)
Retired surgeon
Justin Paperny & Michael Santos discuss the differences between a federal prison camp and low security prison.
Justin Paperny: Hi everyone. This is Justin Paperny with White Collar Advice and today Iām going to talk with my mentor and colleague Michael Santos.
Great info!
Michael, many of the clients by way of White Collar Advice end up at a federal prison camp, somehow ever do go to a low and there are many questions about the differences between a low and a camp. You, of course served 26 consecutive years in prison of all security levels, including a low and a camp. So, on the top of your mind are there any significant differences that you can share with our viewers?
Michael Santos: Absolutely. There is a big difference between a low and a camp. As you mentioned, I served time in prison of every security level and I can tell you every security level where you drop there is a huge difference. Now, that doesnāt mean that at individual canāt live a life of meaning and relevance regardless of where he or she is confined, but there are big differences between security levels. With a low, a problem that a lot of people have is they have this misperception that it is dangerous. Now, the reality is, itās dangerous living out here in society. It doesnāt matter where you are you're always vulnerable. You're always living with people and although you can control your own behaviour, you can't control the behaviour of other people.
Do federal prisons offer concierge services? (Asking for a wealthy friend in Florida who shall remain unnamed!) šš
Okay, but in a low there are a number of people who could very easily serve their time in a camp. The only reason that they're in a low is because a lot of times is because either they are an immigrant and not a US citizen, and so they would be in a camp, but their citizenship precludes them or they were convicted of a crime that has such a high dollar amount that requires them to have a longer sentences. So, they are serving time inside of offense because the release date is beyond 10 years away. That said anyone who is inside of a low can really find more opportunities that exist in a camp. You see, a camp generally has a population of between hundred people on the sparsely populated camp to as many as 1000 people at a big camp like Maxwell in Alabama. Most lows are going to have populations of 1000 to 2000 people inside of one institution, one facility, and as a consequence of them having 2000 people you can expect there are going to be a lot more programs and a lot more activities to pursue in a low. So, that's a huge advantage for people. When you have 2000 people around you, you will always find somebody that you can connect to, somebody that you can be friends with. There is just such a wide variety of people. When I was in a camp I was with Wall Street bankers, I was with medical doctors, with surgeons, with entrepreneurs, with well-educated people, and I was with gang members.
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Going into Anything-"scared" is foolish and completely useless. The act of being "scared" is projecting potential-negative occurrences/issue in a future situation. It has Nothing to do with your NOW-which is the only thing that exist. Be it prison, school, a neighborhood or an impending conversation, "scared" has never and will never help you. I learned this valuable lesson while incarcerated-and being scared several times...until I realized ninety percent of my "scared thoughts" never came to fruition. Be PREPARED-not scared! Also, I was in seven different fed joints (mostly mediums-lows), everyone had ":controlled movements" which are just like you have in high schools-the bell rings and move to your next class/gym, yard, work, etc. And, I have to disagree about how any "preparation" can change/alter the facility you're going to. Other than medical issues-which would initially be raised by your attorney-the BOP (not the judge) decides where you're doing your time.
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Wow this is very interesting. I always thought that a camp would be the most ideal, but I guess not for everyone.
@animatedaboutlifeFci loretto was the best low.. more like a camp...
@brooklyn90s77Felicity Huffman brought me here.
@ponrixLET GET REAL , THE ONLY DIFFERANT IS A INVISABLE LINE 'OUT OF BOUND'' AT THE CAMP , And anyone that see you doing something you shouldn't be doing ,they will rat you out for a ''Furlough ' to the Captain or LT. LET FACE THE ACT , sometime it better to stay in the big house , less rule and less work , at the camp , you have to many young punk trying to be super cop looking for a pair of extra dirty under ware to smell in your locker., one thing they can't stop 'THE CLOCK''
@hardcandy7112I have been to a state prison and know what to expect there, but I do not know what to expect at a federal prison.
@my_second_springFolks the real story about prisns is that this is a DEM institution - follow the $$$ follow the poliicians, follow the gifts & corruption - that's all
@abbiebeastOMG a guard has o write you a hall pass - YOU DICK!!Don't know your case but likely you ripped off grandma, and poor families, and folks that trusted you and NO REMORSE -wow you piussy
@abbiebeastWhat about the families etc feelings that Jimmy your bo-boy MURdERED you ASSHOLE
@abbiebeastWHY would you honor a CNTRACT KILLER - "very articulate.... etc" you SCHUM - FU
@abbiebeastChanging calculations in an actuary table does NOT make you a gang-banger or rapist... I get it, but to ask for empathy KMA you were out to FXXX and Screw people of wealth, in return found guilty and made to get a tan when the guards said so daily - Really? You have the balls to make a video on this and say it's the same!!
@abbiebeastPerhaps you all should go into an honest line of work (good golly) - and please your life was NEVER in danger every moment.... I'm sure the tennis courts challenged you, then again your game probably got better too as a result cause that's all you had to focus on!!
@abbiebeastWhere is Trump's lawyer Comey going?
@ndrthrdr1All The dope boys from Memphis go to Coleman in central Florida once they leave mason
@og6340It's a blessing I found this channel so much good info and to give your contact information like a phone number that helps us who just found you and need specific information quickly. The more I watch the more I think I can do this but I'll be 52 very soon I could come out anywhere from 55 to 62 I don't see any good that can come from me being locked up for a long or short time. I think I'm going to have to decide is life worth living? I just don't know. Thank you for all you do. God bless and if ya care pray or just wish me well. Thanks again for doing what you do
@darinlg1_problemchild153Lies!!! Been to medium in Marion ill, low in Minnesota, and camp in Leavenworth ks this guy is on some straight bs
@brandonblue9849Why should someone who committed some of the more esoteric white collar crimes even have to worry about having to be around someone who killed a bunch of innocent people with an ice pick? Why should someone who is serving time for embezzlement have to leave prison with internalized automatic behaviors such as always standing with the back towards a wall in public spaces? My take on the situation is, if you haven't committed a violent act before you went to prison, you should be afforded the same protection from violent criminals while you are in prison like you would be outside of prison. That starts with not putting normal people into the same facility with violent freaks.
@statinskillCamps and lows BOTH suck because they throw you on bunk beds out in the open with no privacy and plenty of NOISE. Medium's are the best. Privacy and without the violent nuts at the penitentiaries.
@melbedewyWhy does the Federal BOP place convicts far far away from their families? Example, Your family is in California but the Federal BOP sends you to a Federal Prison in Hawaii or Florida?
@GoldenOldiesMusicCollectorI was at the last Federal coed camp in Spokane, WA. It was at Geiger Correctional facility. Wild! My time spent on new charges after that wasn't so great. Should have stopped there, lol.
@garyhall6294Do You Know anything thing about Coleman Low Prison in Florida ? As I have family member there ? Is it a Safe PrisonĀ Education Available Etc......
@biggestbrowneyesHaving spent 28 years in the U.S. Army, I find it amusing how similar in many instances, the "Federal" experience is. I can relate to my Federal Prison counterparts because the Army was set up (especially for enlisted personnel) in some very familiar manners. Many times, we shared a room with 3 other personnel, in the quad configuration. Needing a pass, cleaning your room, maintaining your locker is sometimes a little too close to confinement of a sorts. The way I look at it, all did our "federal" time, didn't we?
@StellarBlue1You will hear from people who have spend live sentences.. Spooky.
Sorry, I couldn't resist. Please don't shank me, homey.
@ 09:50 we called it 10 min. moves
@chitwnhoodEither this dude is lying or he been in prison his whole the way he's talking, well I got 45yrs when I got down to 10yrs something doesn't jive.
@readynow12345what is a drop zone? Ex affiliated inmates? do they stay at camp or low?
@rachelmarieshouse6240is it true you can pay extra money to get a softer jail experience for white collar criminals ?
@anastasia10017Awesome.. A strong mind set..
@beenonthamovInteresting point about camp versus low. I have a female friend who just got out of what she called a couples retreat type prison which I believe was a low. I also noticed that once or twice y'all said camp when you meant low and vice versa. Got a little confusing but whatever...informative as always.
@prudencejane3535Nice job you guys and thanks for all you do.
@rogergalvin9637Great info deliveredĀ in an easy to understand format. The more I watch the more I learn. Keep up the good work, you are an inspiration and are definitely helping people. I know that is and has always been your focus.
@sampompeo9747Once again, great information. I had fgriends at camp that said they wished they had stayed at the low they transferred from gecause there was so much more to do.
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