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Every CLUE that proves Doom was always in the MCU Explained in 12 Minutes

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From Reed Richards using Dr. Doom's tech in Dr. Strange in the Multiverse of Madness, Von Doom box in Moon Knight, Mobius telling a story to Loki in Loki Season 1, Doom's castle as the citadel and more here are clues that proves Victor Von Doom was always in the MCU explained in 12 minutes.

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@cesara.borges9698
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Not even interested in this doom shit and marvel thinks they did something awesome

@Lulusobad
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When they announced RDJ was Doom, I was not surprised at all. The set up that RDJ was NEVER TONY STARK and that something happened to Tony in this universe or he was killed, I'm guessing Kang took him, facilitating Howard Stark adopting a young latvarian boy to replace the son he lost, or that was kidnapped because I'm pretty sure he never told his wife.

@Doomsusall
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Doom's castle is Vlad the Impaler's castle, better known as Count Dracula 😼

@GuiCarva07
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There's to much footage to build up Dr Doom as Tony Stark in the Age of Ultron Movie!

@jesusramirez5639
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Stretching like a mf aren’t we? Doom was clearly not meant to be shown so soon. They are just taking Kang’s storyline and throwing Doom in there with probably a few tweaks here and there. I think Kang was meant to introduce Doom. Like maybe Kang mentored Doom which is how Doom gets all his tech, magic, and knowledge of the multiverse and what will happen.

@KaN9aR00st3R
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I hope they could just replace the actor of Kang, I think the build up of the story is actually great

@krisostomoibarra
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Visions aren't dreams.

@superbat22
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Guys doomsday was not even planned , the kang dynasty changed into doomsday ,so there was not cluee at all

@shobith9374
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You're much smarter then the writers currently destroying the mcu

@TomGriffiths-t2h
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8:22 i mean... wasn't he surprised because it was literally himself??

@Quixfuentes
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my dumbass thought like, doomslayer tech

@dark_optix4437
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If Jonathan beat the allegations...then we should still be on the kang agenda...i don't know what's wrong with these people. I mean it's bad enough Kang is the wrong race but I'm fine with it, now they won't even complete his story...wtf?

@Mikeytheorchestrator
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“People living outside of their timeline fraters reality.” Unless they are Gamora.

@DarthSoto78
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Great work 💯

@Gcode609
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Kang being scared of Doom and thinking he would take over makes absolutely no sense and is super goofy Kang is the same level as doom

@ashleybanks-wm4cg
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Yh this is a hard reach man. Mcu dox this stuff last minute. They just dont want Jonathan majors to be associated with their work thats why they are redoing endgame and retconning quantum mania

@Muzan_jack251
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Can we just admit that Doom was a last minute idea and enjoy the movie as it is instead of trying to pretend that it was all some genius plan?

@Cyclone_2264
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I’m dooming to it

@chantho2525
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I just want to see Owen Wilson as Captain America

@CrashoutsDaily
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This is dumb because they didn't even know that Doom was going to be a character until their movie started flopping and they needed Robert Downey Jr to come back

@CrashoutsDaily
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Idiot youtuber 😂😂 they didn't decide about doom before kang actor incident

@OnLi9e
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No he wasn't stfu

@hastnicke_
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I guess bro

@fold4502
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Howard stark was inspired by captain America even Tony said that his dad wouldn’t shut up about him and looked up to him well him going back to his old timeline and stop being Captain America maybe makes Howard dislike him and stop respecting him causes him to raise his son differently or makes his wife leave while pregnant đŸ€”

@CarlosLopez-iy6jr
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Its Marvel

@JosiasFernandesDioniziodaSilva
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Dream was definitely for Thanos

@egeercetin7904
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If I’m correct I remember reading up on what was going to happen in Kang Dynasty they were going to introduce Doctor Doom in that movie almost making it seem like he was pulling the strings all along and having it end on a cliffhanger where DOOM and Kang were going to be the villains for secret wars, that’s why we see so many Easter eggs of Doctor Doom around the Kang era of Marvel Movies

@cherubcherubs8743
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The moment they told us Secret Wars was the Saga capper, I was fairly confident they'd involve Doom - you can't really do an adaptation of Hickman's work without him. I suspect he was either initially being saved to put together Battleworld after the multiverse was destroyed in Kang Dynasty, but the Majors situation changed the plans.

@samuelhonywill4499
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So they’re not rehiring RDJ because the MCU has been failing lately?

@JonDoe-o9v
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Sure, lets just make it up as we go along lol.

@vl4581
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You kno why i dont watch any of these videos they make on doom being there.....because literally NONE OF THESE MOVIES WERE POINTING OR EVEN THINKIN BOUT INCLUDING DOOM AT ALL THEY LITERALLY RUSHED DOOM 4 YEARS AHEAD OF SCHEDULE BECAUSE OF THAT STUPID TRASH HOE THAT RUINED THE KANG DYNASTY BY LYING

@leftie7098
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Essay inbound lol when I saw that Downey was going to be doom and that he has that scar it made what I was thinking a bit more clearer.

I reckon you're kinda right about the citadel belonging to some one else but it was the timeline that got 'pruned' by tva, but instead of it being completely destroyed kang used it as he hide away and a place to watch over the sacred time as instead of killing doom, when they pruned the timeline, Kang replaced Tony with victor so like you said he could still have that drive to create time travel etc.

When tony goes back to 1970 as well he finds out that the dates don't line with his birthday so the theory of tony being replaced with doom in the time line we been watching is viable.
When tony uses the stones and it damages his face it's the same place as doom's scar. So I think when he uses the stones it sends his true self (victor Von doom) to the citadel where he was originally from, but at that point Loki had become yggdrasil, doom with new powers from the stones, defeats Loki taking his powers aswell and causing the multiverse to become fragile, making all the incursions and what captain America did etc, cause the collapse of the whole multiverse, but doom knowing this would happen then find molecule man to take the power of the beyonders to create his battle world to save the multiverse and to become God emoprer doom.
And in doomsday we might see that happen but happens in the earth that the recent fantastic 4 was set in, then making the fantastic 4, go to other earths to help stop doom and molecule man and make the life rafts that Richards comes to battleworld in.

This is probably very fair fetched but we know marvel doesn't directly stick to the comics, also this may been something they would of set up with kang dynasty, but with majors being a naughty boy they had to skip all of that, so this could be their deviation, as it's clear they are going for 2015 secret wars not the original (which beyonder created battle world). I think this is probably the only way they could really open up to anything being possible and everything that has happened to be truly cannon. And when Richards gets given the power from doom by molecule man he sets up a new multiverse that opens up more possibilities for marvel.

@NYAG91
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Obviously they had to change plans after pulling out Kang.
They decided to go with Doom since they were going to introduce the Fantastic Four to the MCM.

And since they said they will tie Doomsday to the end of Endgame with new scenes, it feels like they try to skip the past 7 years and undo the bad shows and movies and only connect certain characters, storylines and movies/tv shows that are relevant to Doomsday.

@MetzDJerry
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Am I the only one that, after seeing that scene between loki, saying he would change the equation, and kang almost dead, feels like kang might have killed god loki before? (or saw him getting killed, idk, he at least shows a lot of respect) just to get in the throne? feels like a bootstrap paradox between doom, kang and loki. doom and kang want order in a system that is designed to grow exponentially naturally. incursions might be a property of this system while in the hands of loki.

@luizsalomao5341
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"we wuz Kangs and sheeeiiit" will never get old.

@KardboardKenny
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Btw 9k like out of 400 k views says it all btw

@savagekitchino
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Just fing stop with the bullshit. The one and only reason the canceled kang as the main villian is because the avtor of kang got fired after beeing found guilty in multiple harassment and assault charges. The only reason the chose doom is because THERE IS NO OTHER VILLIAN PREPARED. thats LITERALLY THE ONLY REASON. They didnt started changing things in 2021. They convinced RDJ with his dream marvel role because they knew people would watch it. RDJ saud hes done with marvel ,but wouldnt say no to playing dr doom. All this tiptoeing about random garbage yall make up. The actor got fired for beeing a felon. Plain and simple. No backstories. No "secretly changing" tf ?

@savagekitchino
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Plot theory and I’ll say it here KANG also planned for this all to happen then doom will over throw Loki setting up kang coming back

@xG00BIEx
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Mental gymnastics by a doombot

@GottAccount
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No you're 100% wrong the moment that pushed Tony Stark towards Ultron was flying that nuclear missile into that portal during the New York battle

@THEFLABERINE
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lol. An actor was fired for being innocent and replaced by an actor with criminal history. There’s no theory just reality.

@Souliteracy
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Hmm
 the video author doesn’t understand how multiple realities and branched timelines work and certainly not how they’re represented in the MCU. A branch doesn’t just collapse if the stones were returned
that’s contrary to what Banner said and also to the Loki series. Once created, they continue. Also you’re thinking from human level perspective and assuming every reality is running in some kind of parallel time consistency. All those realties that started forming in the Loki series
 they go from never existing to ‘always existing’. To their occupants they were never not there. That’s why the TVA ‘pruned’ like pruning a tree branch and not ‘destroyed’
 because the branch will eventually grow back otherwise. The branches were always meant to form
 the pruning is an attempt of control. A stop gap measure
 like collecting a water leak in a bucket and then pouring that collected water back to the location of the leak over and over.

@Lyonsbane75
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You’re forgetting the stolen Pim particles. It’s the whole reason Pim left shield. Those stolen particles prove that captain and Tony were destined to go back to 1970.

@douglasberry7781
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There’s a reason strange needed Tony to die in endgame đŸ€·đŸŸâ€â™‚ïž he saw the future

@chasebell7532
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How much did marvel pay you to make this? What a joke.

@matthewwilson2328
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When are you idiots gonna learn than Stark IS NOT DOOM. RDJ is Victor Von Doom. Downey is a great actor and will be wearing make-up, as well as a mask.🙄

@Lbuddy67_69
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If Steve Rogers (Captain America) returned the stones but decided to stay in the past of a different parallel universe, then how did he get back to the primary MCU universe and chat with Bucky (Winter Soldier) and Sam Wilson (Falcon)? At some point, he had to return. Yet, he didn't come through the time/dimension portal. So, how did he get "back?" đŸ€”

@ccchhhrrriiisss100
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This was a last minuet hail mary after firing Majors. This was never planned from the start.

@2112-m8r