7 Signs of a Narcissistic Father | Father/Son Relationship
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This video answers the question: What are the signs of a narcissistic father, specifically in a father-son relationship?
As far as love interests⦠if I have a relationship end he will say, āI told you soā but obviously in a much meaner way. Itās as if he feels like if he could pick a woman for me that would be the only way Iād have a successful relationship⦠itās very weird
Narcissism:
There are two types of narcissism: With grandiose narcissism we see characteristics like being extroverted, socially bold, self-confident, having a superficial charm, being resistant to criticism, and being callous and unemotional. Vulnerable narcissism is characterized by shame, anger, aggression, hypersensitivity, a tendency to be introverted, defensive, avoidant, anxious, depressed, socially awkward, and shy.
I married a son in this position, with an extremely enmeshed and controlling narc father. It's been a very hard 20 years. It took me years to get through to my husband that we did not need his father's approval for every decision that we made in our own household and with our own children. My husband was so programmed that he couldn't do anything without his father's approval because if he did his dad would explode and scream at him and call him all kinds of names. So my husband had adapted since childhood to just do what his dad said and let his dad make his choices because it was much easier to survive that way and not trigger his dad's rage. After several years I finally convinced my husband that we just don't have to tell him everything we do. He can't get upset about things he doesn't know about. Now my father-in-law is 86 years old with very declining health. Thank God he can't drive anymore because he can no longer come to my house and interfere with our lives beyond calling my husband several times a day.
1. The narcissistic father is a significant influence in the the son's life
2. The narcissistic father teaches the son a lot of maladaptive behaviors regarding how to approach other people
I had a narcissistic father that was raised by a narcissistic mother. Unfortunately, when I was 10, my mother was diagnosed with MS. While my father did not yell and scream much, he did criticize made hurtful remarks, and called them teasing, along with many other verbal jabs. I was too sensitive, I had no sense of humor, and he was convinced that I would never get married. Why? I was boring. I wasnāt an attractive enough and I was just strange according to him. Iām married a man very similar and did not know it until years later. When we divorced self-esteem and self-worth hardly existed and I still had to deal with my dad. My mother died in my mid 30s, however, my father lived for 24 years until 2010. I was 55. I miss my mother, but canāt say the same about my father. My ex-husband died in 2013 and my son I believe has benefited from his dad not being around. Narcissists destroy their families, and the damage is difficult to repair. However, I have hope for in this situation currently will have more help and support then I did.
3. The narcissistic father will have a strong position on whether the son should have children of his own
4. The narcissistic father lives vicariously through the son in a way that connects with the
Narc father, vain father.
grandiose fantasy
5. The narcissistic father is not necessarily emotionally distant, but he does not focus on emotions that the son is having
God bless everyone going through this. Jesus Himself said to not tolerate the Jezebel spirit (modern-day narcissism) unless they repent. So the Bible mentioned no-contact long before psychology did. Narcissism is demonic, intended to destroy the person themselves and those around them. My biological father had it too. Why mention this - is there's fantastic news - our real Father invites you into His arms! He has adopted me, healed me, taught me to forgive. Mainly now we do life together. He speaks to me daily. I spend many hours in the loving arms of my Heavenly Father. I know He thinks no less of anyone else! ā¤
6. The son may get abandoned for another child, perhaps a son or daughter that can allow the narcissistic father to feel more fulfilled
7. In a divorce situation, the father is typically divisive and encourages the son to side with him against the mother
I'm 18 and kicked my dad out 9 months ago. Your videos are helping me become a better man. Thank you.
Nodar, M. martha. a. nodar@live. mercer. ed. (2012). Impact of Family Dynamics on Narcissism and Impotence: A Commentary and Implications for Psychodynamic Counselors. Professional Counselor, 2(3), 201ā207.
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I am lucky 2 have a covert weee. Where does neglecful narcisistic mom play into i assume covert? Nah he has no involvement. Seems like only grandiose is covered here. So ill ask why do they make financial goals that are close 2 impossible tho if u do hit fancial goal he discard u instead. All fun all the time. Also question about "deserving lessons " or teaching undefined lessons. Why r they ok with their kids hating them? Man am I ever worried I am screwed 2 be the narcisistic person even tho learned about it for years. Honestly give up no way out. Why is winning everything 2 him I like 2 win sometimes dominating feels good and they have 2 win. I guess or collapse, including trickery / baiting. Why do they break or try 2 break spirit of own kids? Also why let me live with bed bugs for over 2 years 2 teach me a lesson / show me he is not respawnsible even tho a parent. Meh a bastard.
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how about a narc son and empath dad its not represented
More User Perspectives
At this point in my life, I just hope he dies first. I cannot with him anymore. My mother deserves to live a long life.
@charliegone1652Re #3: 100%. I always thought that my father didn't want me to have kids because he wouldn't want to see me succeed where he failed.
@jonnuanez7183My dad didnt want to teach me things, he was in competition with me and expressing how much more he had than me during each age when i was growing up, yes he helped paying some things but there was always a catch, he's an alcoholic and i never knew who i was going to get that day, there was no genuine love coming from him, he wanted me to over please his dad but nothing back towards me, he would smirk at me when i was hurt and told me to f' off, i dont recall hanging out with him growing up or having conversations only irritation if i didnt know anything.
@Naturegolf32āThe man is the head of the houseā is mal-adaptive? Isnāt it just what 99.7% of the worldās population believes outside of western liberal enclaves?
@garfunkle37I found that any conversation or topic would ultimately end up being about my shortcomings. I could be talking about my cat, and all of a sudden, there's something wrong with me, somehow. It's incredibly exhausting.
@TokolosI am a mother of two sons. I separated from their father last year and he made the boys chose him. I left the house with no money, anything. I said I would fight for the joint custody, but he really thought I would come back (as I usually did, because I would always leave with my boys and then feel bad for them for being away from their father and I thought it was unfair to them, since I have a wonderful and present father) when I hired a lawyer, she found out that we would lose our house within months, cars and everything and he was hiding his debts from me. When the lawyer called him (he is also a lawyer) the HELL was upon me. My boys yelled at me like they have never did in the past. Their father told them that I was trying to screw him up with the lawyer. I then hired another lawyer, who is the mother of my youngest son friends, so my ex husband wouldn't like to be prick to a person that knows everyone HE knows, and that was my salvation. Her boys talked to my son, explaining the procedures, and convincing him to talk to me again. We are now, the three of us, very well regarding the relations. My eldest son, who is 17 goes to therapy (i had to trick my ex husband to agree to that and making it look like it was his idea. My son was like an apathic shell at the time. He was 15. Now after 2, almost 3 years of therapy he knows exactly who his father is so he is the discarded son). My youngest son, who is 13, has more popular friends, likes to the country club that my ex adores. So he is now "mini me", and I have 2 days per week with them. And I am always trying to find ways to have them spending more time with me. I was the one who prioritized health and education over "showing of" for ppl. I booked private math teacher for my 13 yo boy who was hidding his grades from me. Well I am lucky to have my parents, that are in their 70's or I would be on the streets or trapped forever inside that hell. I know my boys are almost taken hostage, because they can not turn against this devil but I am organizing their room and everything with the help of my parents and I am taking baby steps because I was diagnosed with anxiety, situational depression and PTSD. The worst is in the past and I am thankful that time shows everyone who people are, even if they are Master manipulators
@TheAnaceciliadmmmWhat's rough is when both parents are narcissistic or BPD. They blame each other and you spend decades balancing your brain as to what happened. There's probably a reason why I'm the only family member to move thousands of miles away. I've been trying to escape it all!
@vikingsolutionsatxMine didnāt give a shit. What video applies to me?
@iamindysingh9:00 shit this is me
@CinventaMy son's father had a Narcissistic personality Disorder but the father also has 3 baby mamas and is on marriage #3 which is a woman who has NO children with him. She has a daughter from a separate relationship when she was 15. The father always pits all the children against each other, believes he is the prize and that everyone has to appease him. All the kids are triangulated against one another and all the babymamas are triangulated. His "new wife" doesn't care because they have an open relationship.
@damoab1909Toxic masculinity lol
@mikeymik2The father's place as head of the household is the universal human norm across all cultures and the entire expanse of human history, including our own. The fact that this alone served as an example of narcissism is wrong and ideologically motivated. Not good, man. Clarifying that the father using his culturally normal position as head of household as a vehicle of abuse...that's an actual diagnostic sign. I think you know better.
@patrickschissler5860I have started an sp500 portfolio since my son was 5 and hope he grows it forever and his children even more, down the generations. Am I narcissistic for having a grandiose plan for my descendants? I mean it's for them, I won't even be around by that time.
@dimitristripakis7364having a dad who continually pushes you yo go into the family business for decades and then still doesnt stop and starts talking about legacy issues
@terencesmith2421He wouldn't be interested enough to have an opinion on anything I ever done
@michaelflannery7462From the sonās point of view, how do I fix the effects of this? Do you have a video on it?
@talontate4765Ay man at least you grow to enjoy the anxiety at least i do I don't know if that's healthy tho
@medlam2281What about when the son is gay? How might that change this dynamic viz the Oedipus angle?
@cyberdharma1020This is beyond helpful! First video on this in particular!
@deborahd2936My narc daddy never had time to teach me how to be a man, for he was too busy with his three mistresses.
@Captain_CommenterThis is my father.... He never wrong. Gaslighting, disrespectful, socially dominant, arrogant, grandioso, lies, takes credit for things he didn't do, hypocrite, control freak....
@KareemIshmael-f3b4:32
"The man is the head of the household." So, the biblical model for the family is now narcissistic?
Does that mean a father should encourage his son to be a milquetoast weakling, who is dominated by his wife? Pathetic!
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@Trade1001This explains the relationship with my father that I bearly had..outside of the other types of abuse..my father was a truly messed up individual. The one thing he did right i guess is he had two sons that made sure that we became nothing like him as fathers. So people say. We make sure our children are taken care of before anything or one else. I'd die before anything or one hurts my children in anyway
@gavinmcclure8047I always liked my teachers. In fact I liked them so much I wish I can go back in time and marry a few of them. Whatās the diagnosis for that? š lol
@DrewAnti1960Men should be the head of the household.
That's not maladaptive, that's evolutionary biology.
I have a narc father too.
Grandiose. Manipulative. Authoritarian. Dogmatic. Self Righteous. Doesn't hesitate to shame you and expose your flaws in front of others for the sake of cheap laughs to belittle you.
Most importantly - wants to bind you to be your slave and project their own failures onto you to demean you.
Narc fathers often don't allow their sons to get married to women - unless those women are of the narc fathers choose them. It's all about conformity.
Doesn't care for your future. It's all about their self and ego, and shallow social status.
The man ahead of the house is not narcissism. Its biblical.
@krakerjak3Spot on right here, spot on. Especially about the fantasies that a narcissistic father has with his son
@bmac_xxx207Honestly, this book āRaising Warriors: Preparing Your Children For a Godly Lifeā gave me the encouragement I needed to stay strong in raising my kids with Christian values, itās comforting to know Im not alone on this journey
@JackSmith-w1tThis is everything my dad tries to teach me donāt trust women carry in the legacy everything you said DOC and Iām about to be 30 on the 29th and Iām still rewriting my brain from that maladaptive behavior.
@Brothersinarms2.0I feel like all boomer fathers did this. Although boomers were the least involved in the formative years of childrenās lives basically the millennial generation. Also probably the first generation in history to not have the stay at home full time mother. Boomers donāt see their very privileged upbringing economic opportunities during their time which is proving to be an anomaly an American history. They were MIA probably never engaged properly when they were around yet expected their children to be a certain way. Most of them are quite self-centered money driven, and they want to know why their children are messed up. Parents were very uninvolved in my generation. I was left home alone at five years old. Most of my peers similar and my millennial peers have very common childhood and I donāt want to see trauma but common dysfunction that proves to be a pattern in the boomer mindset. Parents were allowed to get away with a lot of things many children I know were actively physically harmed and neglected, and no one took action because back then that just not what happened unless it was truly awful and even then the government bureaucracy does not work properly to take kids who needed away from the situation. Most of my peers admired their grandparents as they were more active in their lives have a negative view of their parents because when their parents were around, they were very toxic and abusive. A lot of my peers grew up in a house of divorce. Another thing that started with the boomer generation, massive divorces, unlike before. Iām not sure what the boomer trauma or wound is, but they seem to like to take it out on the generations that they are responsible for because theyāre the ones who created them molded them didnāt mow them and now have expectations that are impossible, especially given that boomers destroyed, the system that created the American class which most millennials are still paying into their parents retirement funds still offer their student loans the first time that massive transfer of wealth from the other end goes to the older generation again anomaly. But the boomers do not see themselves entitled or spoiled they just keep nom nom nom on the economic cookies because they feel that theyāre 9 to 5 with healthcare pension 401(k) vacation vacation house in Florida was all hard earned. Yet they have spent 300 years of American GDP on something they can show nothing for⦠ie war corporate welfare and mass export/outsourcing of U.S. jobs. The jobs that gave them the lifestyle they got comfortable with. Most of their children secretly hate them and canāt wait for them to die which is so sad 90% of my peers and the millennial generation have expressed this wish for the boomers just die yet they cling onto their grandparents and grieve them truly, but when boomer dies, the kids are almost happy. I donāt know what happened to the boomers if you could make a video like a generational psychological thing that would be great. Because even now as the American empire is crumbling running on fumes they seem to still feel entitled and that any policy that makes them even slightly suffer with the rest of us they feel is unjust and it really seems they are so disconnected with the reality of the situation where it as a country and I really would love to know what this and what continues to make them feel this way and why they hold so tightly to it dead ideology and believe in a system that is no longer there anymore? Could you make a video specifically on American boomers and also millennial problems because we have our own psychological problems and entitlement would be great to go through the generations and see what sort of psychological effects on a mass scale has affected them all.
@jamestrueblood1990fck i hate my dad š
@ThatDude-vw7geMade it nearly 10 minutes in before I realized that you were not talking about NPD but just narcissistic traits. I'm sure nearly everyone has some, my dad definitely does but I love him for who he is and am thankful for the good times we have had. I don't blame him for many of the issues I have had in my life, I choose to take responsibility for my own actions. Love yourself and treat others how you wish to be treated.
@troyerthedestroyerIt's almost like someone was watching my childhood with my father.
At the very least, I know I'm not crazy.
Always felt like my father was narcissistic but non of these things mentioned describe him. He wouldnāt want us to stand up for ourselves whenever we were being bullied but then would get mad for not defending ourselves, whenever something bad happened like a break
Up or an error at work or whatever heād blame us failing to realize what he did wrong in his situations, always played the victim role and could never speak about they way I felt because heād then say āwell what about the time you made me feel likeā⦠was always extremely materialistic.. could never ask for anything because I knew Iād get lectured. If I ever said thank you heād ignore it. On one particular occasion I had purchased concert tickets for him and my step mom so they could have a date night, concert tickets backstage passes etc.. instead of saying thank you get mad because I didnāt buy my step sister any, thatās when we had our fall out and I started to resent him⦠now he gets upset because I donāt take anything from him or anyone at that and I call him out on his BS heāll quickly say letās not talk about that⦠heās also a pathological liar⦠feel more at peace when I donāt speak to him.. says Iāll regret it when he passes away
No of this fits my narcissistic fatherās relationship with my brother.
@jedilegoartsMy father is a text book grandiose narc. Iām his second child and daughter. I suffered. My older brother really suffered and has huge issues. My dad is alienated from his parents and siblings and now his wife and children. But even though he is in his late 70s he has not changed and feels he is the victim. He hasnāt figured out the common denominator.
@jedilegoartsMy Father has signs of both covert and overt. He was never happy with my achievements and he tend to badmouth me to other people to make himself look good or better. He never acknowledged and recognized every food thing I did for him and the family. He is so arrogant, don't want to accept constructive criticisms. He was always right and he always thought he is the right and the best person I. the world. This has triggered my major depressive disorder and generalized anxiety disorder but despite being diagnosed with depression and anxiety, I tried every step to I can to reach my dreams where he never was supportive. He keeps telling me and other people I can't make it. He used to invalidate every little thing about me. He is an irresponsiblealcoholic Father. He never sustained the family needs. I studied away from home and never listened to him. Now I am a registered nurse and a clinical instructor.
@eduardomlofstedtjrAnd they are particularly evil of their son turns out to be gay. So sad.
@Nat066:04 where's the lie? lol
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