Why The Mercedes W15 Is Only The 5th Best Car In 2024!

Im still surprised you havent got 6 digit views or subscribers. Your take on tech concepts on f1 are always on point. Got me subbed last year just by viewing one video.

The thing people forget is Mercedes’ had an exodus of their best engineers leave for other teams after 2021. Shame really, if they shut up about the politics and oppression their staff would have stayed

They simply need to take risks in setups etc

'worser' as an archaic or nonstandard word for 'worse'.

I am convinced now that Mercedes only got the best engine in the previous regulations. Nothing more.
Redbull was the most efficient car aerodynamically, even with old rules .

sir they are alot better on there tyres this year james allison

One thing Mercedes was right: zero pods had nothing to do with poor rear downforce

So many issues they have now, and I believe that the free Mercedes seat is not as good as it should have been. But still it is the 4th or 5th fastest car. But if I werer Sainz, I would look higher up than Mercedes first. I guess that we will get an official move to a new team during the next month or so. He wants to settle it, and I guess he talks with everybody.

Im starting to think toto is playing games and actually wants the team to fail for some reason. Might have sumn to do with his general expertise as a businessman.

Maybe Mercedes should upgrade their wind tunnel before they upgrade their car

LOOOOOOL 5th "best" car. Nice. Good that they are nit the 9th best car ;-)

The correlation issue is certainly extremely worrying after three years of expensive ‘donkeys’ instead of race horses.

Surely it’s time for a root and branch deep analysis to pinpoint what’s rendering the physical car lame when compared to wind tunnel data?

Mercede shold never even think of challenging for the WC in this era but get the basic done and its mistakes corrected before 2026.

AstonMartin uses Merc's 2023 suspesion, pull rod setup at the rear. Where Merc uses its own new 2024 push rod set up at the rear..

I think you made the most important point: Their theoretical modeling does not correlate with the actual reality. I really don't see how they can reliably improve that--unless they figure out what is wrong with the modeling. What must be worrisome for them is that this problem has been there for 3 years now and they haven't figured it out so I'd be sceptical at this point. At this point the most prudent thing may be anyway to focus on 2026. Mercedes won't be competing this year or the next. And btw, it looks today like Hamilton knew exactly what he was doing when going to Ferrari. Ferrari IMO is the only team that seems to have at least an outside chance of competing with RB next season.

its not about mental state of the team, even if you cant see all the members and engineers of mercedes, you can see the pit stops. team averages 3.2 pit time. we are just looking at a shadow of the team. they are trying to cover it with lewis. last year mercedes car was not 2 nd. it was 3rd at its best. but lewis somehom managed to get it second place at the constructors. mercedes has a lot of job to do in next few years. and they cant afford lewis and good team at the same time

Realistically the only ones who seem even close to competing with the redbulls are mclaren and ferrari. Mercedes and aston are too far behind

Ferrari making huge improvements and winning races and Mercedes falling further and further down...oh how the turntables. Absolutely love it!!! 😍

It has to be engine related. I think with the new fuel their engine is not as efficient as the other engines. I suspect it heats up quicker compared to the other engines and looses its efficiency. Adrian Newey is a genius but I think his presence made everyone think the real difference is in the aero department. I think any aero difference should have been closed after 2 years. Before getting angry about my engine deficit comment please think again. Look at the results. Look at Mercedes engined cars results. Even Aston got an aero engineer from RBR and still they cannot catch RBR.

Merc are the man united of the f1 world, proper fell off after the 8 straight team championships

Its scary how McLaren are currently 3rd in the championship with more points than Merc and AM combined!

Focussed too much on the last year of old regs and chose a concept that they couldn’t develop enough

I know I am late here on viewing this video, but a couple things.
1. Merc and AM share the same wind tunnel. How is it AM is doing better and their Japan updates show they’re understanding their car for the first time since 2023?
2. Is the Mercedes rear-end limiting the AM performance?
3. We should from here onwards refer to Aston Martin as “Alonso Martin.”

With new car concept, they still have to learn about the car as the season progresses from race to race ☝️ Eventually they getting there....

I had to wait until today to watch this because we couldn't watch the GP until yesterday because our entire weekend was super busy. I also kept thinking that Merc would figure out how to be back on to by now, but it looks like it'll be a long road. We thought Suzuka was a great race if you ignored the Red Bulls. Hopefully some of the other teams can close the gap a little.

John Wick Look.. Keep it up!

I've being calling it for quite some time. Can't believe that many YouTubers were still buying their empty words when simple facts showed they would be nowhere and falling behind after changing concepts but not doing what everyone else was doing.
It's called arrogance and bad management.

Mercedes is still generating more buzz and content than RB, Ferrari even as they aren't competitive. Love ❤ it or hate it, but it's true. 😂😂😂😂😂

Such a pity. The car looks great. But doesnt perform equally.

I am curious about their simulator which keeps coming up. They say that simulator observations don't corelate to real life so maybe they might need a new simulator as well as staff. Also, I like your upgrade videos. They are 100% facts and physics and 0% speculation and suspense. That was why I restarted watching these kind of videos on this channel after previously being fed up with videos on other channels.

Merc should copy redbull and build a zero pod car to be fast

Mercedes needs a big breakthrough before summer or they are done until 2026

That’s what ignorance brings you. They didn’t listen to Lewis’ feedback & requests. They are now no where, and have lost their star driver. Nothing lasts forever hey!

Wow, already 33K. I am on channel since 7K. So clean and informational content. Thank you for what you are doing.

Every team has their ups and downs, the competition wouldn't be nearly as interesting if any team that was dominant could just rely on their merits from one year to another and stay at the top without doing any work. I think that Mercedes can't pull out of this nose dive in the near future, but they're setting up what's to come in an intelligent manner, and here's why:
-The change away from the zero side pods is a good move. Yes, they might lose out on performance while they figure out the car but there are two key components that make this change important, the first being that the zero pod concept restricted the organization of the engine bay which limited some components, as was the case with the gearbox, so a shift to a more traditional design and maintaining that will allow them to draw upon (what I believe to be) their biggest strength moving forward, that being the power units, especially as we move forward to 2026 where they are rumored to be the furthest along with development in this regard. The second is that with a vacant seat, they need a car that someone new can come into and be able to perform, and the awkward seating position that the drivers complained about would have limited the potential of anyone they brought into the team, I'm sure even Verstappen wouldn't be able to drive at 100% out of the gate with that big of a change in the feel of the car. As much as it isn't racey, both George and Lewis have been complimentary of the W15 in that it feels like a traditional car again
-This slap to the face has made them more aware. They are realizing that there are flaws in the system with team components such as their sluggish pitstops and their lack of staff. It will take time to fix the problem and I don't think it will be back to capacity by 2025, but moving into and past 2026 it's a lot more plausible that they will be back to working like a well-oiled machine ready to claw back the deficit to their opponents
I think the best thing they can do for the time being is keep their head low, enjoy the anonimity of not competing for the titles and focus instead on improving behind the scenes and building momentum for the years to come so that they can eventually make a full comeback someday

This is really, really simple.

Since 2021, AMG doesn't have a 100+ HP advantage over the rest of the field.

So they can't just slap on more aero to solve the problem.

The new regs are entirely aero dependent, with the PU freeze Merc can't flex their advantage and have been stuck doing what they're weak at, while the other teams always had to be better at aero and punch up, or chassis, because they didn't have the nuclear bomb in the engine bay. Even client teams, look at McLaren or Williams.

Yes. They have balls, those cars can be rocketships in a straight line, Danny's win in Italy in 2021 really cements that, the car is a missile on a fast track like that because the engine was a monstrosity.

Now that's no longer the case. Everyone (except Alpine...) is making as much or more power. It's nearly entirely down to aero and chassis. While AMG has always made a good chassis, they've hidden their aero deficiency behind POWERRRRRR and been able to ignore inefficient, draggy, solutions because it simply didn't matter.

I genuinely think come 2026, and the opportunity to develop the engines again, we'll see a 2014 situation where AMG shows up with what's aerodynamically a shed and just reks the field because they fitted an atom bomb behind the driver.

Nice to already see 33k subs, keep it up! Our F1 infoman!

Stroll needs to go, a better driver might have secured more points and I can see that by the end Aston Martin might miss 4th in the constructors due to a inconsistent driver despite a slightly better car than the Mercedes

Really like the content, just curious though if you have a background in motorsport engineering? as you talk about the technical side in detail quite a lot.

They dominated the previous regulations because they had a multiple year head start on the engine regs which they helped develop with the fia, then the advantage was locked in for 8 years via engine freezes and token systems.

I remember very distinctly James Allison in, like, 2019 saying that correlation issues is the get out of jail free card when things aren't going well...That in modern F1 they aren't caused by the hardware...rather how the team decided on approximations when trying to 'simulate' the real thing with the wind tunnel/CFD...And that in a 'good engineering team' those approximations should be pretty good...iirc, at the time Ferrari were saying that they had correlation issues.
oooh...How the turntables!

The moment they could no longer throw unlimited money at the problem, they began to struggle.

Fourth place constructor this year Mercedes.

They already lost the current Regulation . Cannot catch up with budget limitations…

Can do only a small small tweaks.. that’s all.

Better they prepare well for 2026 Engine Regulation.

And how did Mercedes get so strong? Michael and the engine was designed by Aldo Costa who they grabbed from Ferrari. It’s just how it can be.

Checo deserves a special mention for using Max's tactic after pit stops to regain P2 very quickly & then pace himself for the rest of the race. Well done.