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Why fewer tourists are going to Thailand - Asia Specific podcast, BBC World Service

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Tourism is one of the lifebloods of Thailand’s economy, but tourist numbers have fallen and have never gone back to the same level since before the pandemic.

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The government has been trying to shore up tourist numbers. But, in May, Thailand cut visa-free stay period for tourists from 60 to 30 days.

World number 1 destination is now China !

— @robertwang7825

It sounds counterintuitive, cutting the visa-free stay period when it’s trying to shore up tourist numbers, but that’s actually a solution to a different problem, according to the BBC’s South East Asia correspondent Jonathan Head. He joins our host Mariko Oi on this episode of Asia Specific to unpack the reason behind Thailand’s latest move.

Read more about Thailand’s decision to cut visa-free stay period here 👉🏽https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c78q3qjqnn5o

Wife is American Lao. We go to Thailand, Laos and Vietnam. We spent the most money in Laos and Vietnam because it way cheaper.

— @mikethemechanic7395

Watch a short explainer video on how the cut will impact the way you travel here 👉🏽https://www.bbc.com/news/videos/c142r8yexzno

CHAPTERS:

Because the Thai government wants to reduce the number of tourists but increase the spending of those who do come by offering a better quality product with less over-tourism

— @rruesz

00:00 - Introduction

01:35 - A brief history of Thailand’s tourism economy

They are focusing on people spending 2400$ per day short term high value tourist. Basically they saying they don't want you there unless your spending 2400 per day or above on vacation. I have traveled all over the world and have never spent 2400 per day on shopping and tourism unless it's property or land big purchases. You can't do that there besides own a condo. So how do they want high value tourist there are only so many massages and trinkets you can buy along with food and tours. Nice place to visit but that's it. I can't get over seeing it say they don't want regular tourist but high value it makes me feel like im nothing but a walking atm and if i don't look a certain way or have millions I would be looked down on take notes ppl. You have Phillipines and Malaysia much better spots for just vacationing and less visa and immigration hassle like thailand

— @theVPforge

03:13 - Why Thailand decided to shorten visa-free stay for some tourists

05:30 - What businesses are foreigners setting up in Thailand

Wow! I didn’t know songkran festival had roots in the hindu festival of Makar Sankranti

— @alg-jx8pf

07:50 - Who are the “high-value tourists” Thailand wants to attract

10:35 - Would Thailand’s new visa rules affect regular holidaymakers?

If Thailand treated their animals better I’d be more apt to spend money visiting.

— @Vaalhallla

12:10 - Why there is a dip in Chinese tourists going to Thailand

12:58 - Can Thailand’s economy rely less on tourism dollars?

Even in Philippines. Siargao are pest by Israelis they harass locals

— @Blake15-i7z

14:14 - Should Thailand shift its focus away from mass tourism?

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Two weeks of food poisoning. Who wants that?

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Tried it, system was abused, reeled it back in. Lack of genuine tourists is a separate (global) issue .

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I’ve visited Thailand many times with my wife. Despite many locals trying to con you out of your money it used to seem like an exotic and exciting location. I’ve always loved it. Nowadays the main hubs are just cookie cutter malls with Starbucks etc. it’s lost a bit of charm.

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C'mon, who are you trying to fool. It's not about behavior. But Jonathan is right when he says it is about the perception that the government is doing something for the Thai people. It's optics, not some drunk kid, having a fight in Pattaya...who will have his fight whether he's on vacation a week or a month or longer.

Closing down the illegal business is fine, but let's not forget that these people were told they could run that business via a loophole establishment by Thai lawyers and accepted by the government. Now, those people have been imprisoned, their lives destroyed, and whatever assets they had, 'confiscated' by Thai officials. The very least a civilized justice system would have done, considering many of these owners were married or even had Thai kids, is fine them and offer a legal work-around. Throwing them in prison is barbaric.

And barbarism isn't a good look. Very few people go to Thailand to break the law. Most bring money to invest. No one claims benefits. They bring money and that money is spent on Thai-owned businesses. In some parts of cities, this foreign money props up entire communities. The DTV is a great idea, but it's not for people who are married to Thais, long-term expats. And people are already saying it's unstable, with many people leaving and not being allowed back in. This would never happen in Europe.

And considering that if you are married to a Thai person and even have children, you still cannot own anything, or even, (though it's usually ignored) legally invest or do some work online in another country, well, the rules are crazy, They were written in the 1970s. The world has changed. In what sane world would a married person not be legally allowed to earn money from abroad and spend it in Thailand. How does that benefit Thailand?

That's the issue. The rules need reforming, but the only time foreigners hear about changes, it is negative. It makes life harder, not easier. Meanwhile, Thais happily move to Europe and are accepted as citizens within three or four years, with full rights. My Thai friend the other day told me she is leaving her British partner and suing him for half of the value of his property under British laws. She has been there four years, and has a passport. In Thailand, you can work legally for 40/50/60 years, have children, and if you are not married and lose your job, you become illegal again. A tourist. Get out. How is that fair? And gaining citizenship, or residency, has been made almost impossible, so no one bothers.

The world is becoming a world of movement, where brains and ideas and money now travel. With low birth rates, countries will want to attract ideas, stability, babies.. Yet, Thailand only wants rich foreigners only. It makes it almost impossible to bring an idea and start a business. I totally understand that Thailand wants to retain its Thainess (wish the West would consider that) and that it doesn't want foreigners running much of the local business (never big business. Thai monopolies won't allow competition) but it could ease up on the rules. It already scared the first wave of digital nomads away, many of whom (some I know) started businesses from the ground up in other countries. It's not as if Thailand is inviting broke and angry young men who want to claim welfare and gain entrance into free hotels. Despite the occasional idiot, Thailand has some of the best immigrants in the world who come with money, ideas, and a will to work hard. I say, let them flourish. Especially if they are married!

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It's called gang stalking what i had happen to me in Thailand by police, army, Thai citizens and English involved in the sex industry. When they're interfering and ruining relationships, telling me and others I'm crazy and need to see a psychologist. The lies, stalking, hacking, psychological problems i still have, making me paranoid, turning others against me, ridiculing, stalking in public and social media, telling my personal life to everyone, saying im a druggie and wrong.un, telling people i was molested, cctv in the streets put up in every restaurant i went, recording me on their phones, telling people not to like me. Scaring everyone by saying im a psychopath etc etc.. Making my life hell as if i want to kill myself initiated by bad people after money thai and English with the help of thai police and army. Everywhere i went or another country they spread these lies and i reckon all these lies been put on computer wherever i travel.

@david-x2k-d8p
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Wow, absolutely nothing at all about sex tourism.

@sgbh8874
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Not flying that far for that short period

@goyboy1155
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Same as Goa: they thought the Israelis were rude; now the Russians are teaching them a lessons in bad manners

@SebastianLarsen
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thai expensive. hotels ,everuthing except street food

@AlexBeluga1
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Shorter visa periods for tourists are a good step towards filtering out the sort of tourists who behave badly.

@fatimahpurwitasariharahap4551
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It is low season, the west is in the toilet, and globalism is destroying everything. Everywhere is in decline, much of it being kept quiet.

@steveg4334
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Western MSM must be on a slow news day today. When they run out of ideas, they find global south countries to kick down on.

@ZenkiTheDemon
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中国人喜欢泰国,但更喜欢安全的环境,又黄赌毒又拐卖园区,谁还要去?

@yubon9197
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mariko oi is fascinating to watch lol

@puddingtvinc
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I wouldn't go there because I've seen the horror stories of them framing foreigners for drugs and locking them up.

@DReardon-hq2vb
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The crime sounds just like the UK !

@GOATAUDITS
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As long as Jonathan doesnt acknowledge certain popular tourism industries there his opinion will have no meaning or substance

@YoshiEgg-t2p
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With enough money you could do literally anything here. Local officials love the money if you pay they will let you slide with anything

A Thai here

@yolodojo
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I am debating wether to go or not with my husband to see their beautiful nature etc but i feel like so many tourists go there it might be insufferably overcrowded

@aileenaiko2757
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Let be truthful. Thailand 🇹🇭 has the largest sex industry in the world 🌎 let's be honest it was worth billions to economy, now bars and gogo bars are empty, and they are making hard for old pensioners who drunk at this these bars and own the business too 😮

@dean19641000
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Hot, polluted and not that cheap

@User12345fan
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russian mafia runs some of the islands entirely

@rubs_ripz
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the cost of getting a ripstarter is now over $40

@Dee.Flation
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The title is obviously misleading. This is a good direction for both the Thai people and proper tourists.

@someernie6179
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Many tourists had been scammed in the land of Thai

@advancesg
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You will never hear a Thai say the like police even if they have family in the force yet westerners praise them as they pay them to get away with crime. A country that sells sex and bothers you for money and lie to get you in trouble isn't a nice place

@Natty-i6w
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I heard it's the Israelis now in Thailand, Greece and Argentina putting other tourists off and treating locals very badly plus breaking the law

@galivantesproductions4048
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Thailand is my favorite place in the world 🌍❤

@SimplySheilaB
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I still see a lot of Russians and Israelis in Phuket, Koh Phangan, and Chiang Mai. Many of them are changing the local culture, which is really sad.

@marchmay17
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thailand is drug capital of south asia, tourists(smugglers) visit thailand buy shit ton of hydroponic marijuana for dirt cheap and take to their respective country and sell it for $100k a kilo.

@axel3895
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well there are very few like multi or billionaire tourist but people like us who spend like our family last vacation we spend 2800+$ thats just from hotel and food i did not count the Air plane cost

@loveaklan7012
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If only the UK government would respect its people like Thailand does..

@MightyLucas
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Just stop issuing visas to russians

@rajfc
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Delightful episode. 😂, but I have no plans to visit Thailand

@Edo9River
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When you advertise the tourism with sex workers and drugs, you are bound to get the worst of the worst. I hope they crack down on the rampant sex tourism in Thailand and the drugs. It is shocking to see the ease at which people were buying and selling drugs.

@sparshkhurana5390
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Ive always found it funny to see the “crackdowns” on foreigners while at the same time the government says they want more “high quality” tourists. If they mean “big spenders”, why are they complaining about rising prices hurting the local population? They are only getting what they asked for. Sorry but high-quality tourists go to places where they get high-quality services, stable and consistent government, fair and equal treatment.

@PattayaLife-u8d
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All tourists who come to Thailand come to do things they cannot do in their own countries either good or bad. And that is what keeps Thailand in its limbo stage where no one wants to make any changes!! 😰

@natpaterson6786