Was THIS Murder? | Active Self Protection
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A fender bender leads to a man losing his life.
I'm not even for guns, but I don't see the discrepancy here. If This doesn't justify the use of your weapon then what the hell does seriously, what's the point of even carrying a gun,
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Good kill, he had it coming. Too bad his attempt at stopping him by taking away mobility didnt work out, but opfor was clearly a deathly threat
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If this shot was 100% fatal, can we see a shot that is 50% fatal? đ
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Hypothetically, could shooting someone in the leg be used as evidence that the shooter was trying not to kill their attacker?
I get that it's not a good strategy as far as lethality and incapacitation are actually concerned, and that it's not going to matter to a prosecutor, if the attacker happens to die, as far as charges are concerned.
Just in terms of the legal defense though, could "my client attempted to incapacitate the attacker while minimizing the likelihood of death" be useful in some way?
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No itâs not murder. The other dude showed he was wanting/willing to cause great bodily harm (coming out with the shovel handle) so of course the other dude is gonna think he wants to cause great bodily harm to him, even without the weapon in his hand
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He just prevented red shirt from committing murder. Looks justified to me.
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This is why shooting someone in the leg isnt non deadly
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So totally need a Clint Eastwood axe handle clip in here somewhere, or at least quote him saying there's nothing like a good piece of hickory.
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I mean he wasnt the aggressor .... he didnt produce the gun until he was being charged at with a weapon.... he gave clear audible warnings to stop advancing on him.... he even backed up trying to create distance but the man kept coming. He also instead of aiming for the torso (& up where a miss could have done more damage elsewhere) fired low at the leg.
He did nothing wrong. Heck the accident wasnt even his fault. Wonder if there was any info on if the man who died had a warrant or if anything illegal was found in his vehicle or maybe if he was DUI. To flip out that much about the cops being called for a wreck YOU caused seems a bit much. My guess is he had warrants/had something illegal on him/or was intoxicated.
Dont get me wrong im not saying its not possible it was something else like the guy just has anger management issues or just had an insanely horrible day with tons of other built up stress & just popped ..... just saying i think the chances are higher its one of the other 3 things i listed before.
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Perhaps the guy in blue was concerned about the bullet hitting innocent people if he misses or if the bullet exits the perp with sufficient velocity. There was such a busy area, the ground seems like the best backstop.
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I thought this was going to be a hard one. Self defense
@johnbradley4644Hes gonna beat that
@fgkasey100% justified. F around⌠Find out.
@andrewzipzap3386Tittle is stupid a shovle handdle axe handle can crack your skull hey jhon want me to swing a axe handle at you he seen the gun and still advanced get real
@zaynewilliams3709If they charge him he needs to come to America he did nothing wrong, he is justified in self defense seeing that asshole approach with a long weapon in their hands
@waldozara69c56I haven't heard you guys talk about the guy in red's state of mind. You mentioned do we recognize the shovel handle as a deadly threat? You said, yes. That means the defender sees the state of mind of the guy in red as a mental approach to causing death or great bodily harm. Just because Red doesn't have the shovel handle anymore, I think you can make a great argument that Red is still posing a deadly threat if he gets a hold of an object of opportunity or the gun as a deadly threat. You did touch on that at the end of the video, but only briefly. I htink the state of mind for Red is the key to the defense on this.
@firstchevalier2:38 đ seems like he put it in gods hands... god decided not today
@Alex-ms8mbIt's these kind of interactions that makes you not even want to drive.
@amt5911Unnarmed, armed, doesn't matter at all when someone's getting closer to you despite being warned not to (not sure the guy in blue shirt told the one in red to back off, but common sense implies so).
The man in blue was only protecting himself from possible harm, even if the other guy dropped his "weapon" he was indeed still a threat because he didn't back off imediately, so he got only what he asked for, unlucky that it hit a vital spot but that's always a possibility.
I'm not sure how law will handle this case, but the man in blue shouldn't be in any trouble at all for defending himself, but as we all know, society nowadays does not care about right or wrong, just care about how media will adress it, and given what i've seen lately it will appear on the news as "Gun owner shoots unnarmed man fatally"... That's the world we live in :/
"Todays video comes out of...Xetas..??? Uhh idk..., oh Texas!" Bro work on your reading skills, or you just didnt care to read the name of the city right, either way thats a pretty douchebag way to introduce a city, which im sure he gives no fucks about any city in Costa Roca (Or any city hes not involved in.)
@gabinoalejandrez2782He wasn't unarmed, he was unlegged.
@phillipharris8277Well, it was self defense.
@vioislanderBetter not charge him. This is what we have guns for. To protect ourselves.
@michaelshaw9430Id love if John or any expert would comment on this angle... He drew his gun initially justifiably because the weapon constituted deadly threat, but then although the weapon was tossed, a crazed man wants to physically attack him and could easily get the gun - this is almost more scary than the shovel handle in my view. ahhh I typed too soon and just heard John recognise this very thing.
@rayanslimNot murder. Carry on sir.
@ninjamigs1766This is what Bowling for Columbine said perfectly. The constant push for fear of death, has warped American's minds that everything is a deadly threat. In any civilized society, you'd get charged and convicted for murder. But here? Look at all these commenters just frothing around the month for the chance to justify a murder, that they would have loved to be a part of so they would have the chance of being the "hero" who killed a person to defend themselves.
Kinda sad.
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@kswag2009The guy in the red shirt was heading towards the guy in the blue shirt with a shovel handle, and it looked like he wasn't just planning on talking. His intentions seemed pretty threatening. The guy in the blue shirt didn't want to kill him, which is why he shot him in the leg instead of the body.
@ssn7836Idiot had a weapon (shovel handle) and approaching an unarmed guy who go gets his sidesrm in the car. Two, not very smart guys.
@marcosflores-march7278If Iâve drawn my firearm because you have a weapon, and you then proceed to throw away that weapon and STILL come after me, Iâm going to assume youâve just eyed your next weapon that youâre going to attempt to take from me and use on me⌠This is definitely a clean shoot.
@mikeplaysitHe lucky he got only shot onceâŚ
@V4NLIFE_CANADALooks like self defense to me. Shooter did not initiate, and backed off a reasonable distance. He was already threatened with one weapon. I would have shot him.
@my2cents945911 in Spanish is..........911.
@nilknarf483Justified. Dude was backing away, only drew his weapon when threatened with a weapon. Shot to end the threat, followed up with emergency services call.
@DLCoates1This reminds me of black lady in parking lot . You are signing your own death certificate when you see someone aiming down sight towards you and continue to advance towards you. This was self defense he shot once aimed at leg. He didn't want to kill him. But why wasn't it looked at as aggressive here for driver the way it was for black woman who met immediate aggression from white male in last video? Y'all decide but shout out to ASP for great self defense videos. I'd like to see better takes when it comes to black women defending themselves against white men
@grandschemesradio3799He was âarmedâ with a shovel which can cause serious bodily injury. Therefore the shooting was justified. The fact that he shot him in the leg means he had no intent to kill him. Since when does being âunarmedâ only applies to firearms?
@juanpagan87961:04 the BLACK car is at fault for going too fast and/or not leaving proper following distance and/or was distracted so he braked late
@pinefilms3141[7:48] Yes, it is reasonable to say that the man should not have been standing in the crook of his car door, because he's somewhat trapped there. BUT ON THE OTHER HAND, 'HIS' pickup truck was not immobilized in that accident, and therefore IF the other driver became aggressive A) retreating into the safety of a metal cage (the inside of the truck) offers some protection, and B) the pickup truck driver, by staying close to the car door, maintained the option of being able to *get in the truck and drive away if for example the other driver had drawn a gun.
@gatsbylight4766Dude went looking for something at the end of a barrel itâs natural selection at that point why would u go up to a stranger holding a gun at you zero IQ move n more of a ego move
@scoopnoodle5492I remember hearing from people who think the police shouldn't always aim center mass, "why not just shoot them in the leg or something?" That aged well as you can see
@destroyingtheworksofthedev9349The public here in Costa Rica are beyond pissed that the self defender is facing heat because Costa Rican laws are practically made to punish the defender more than the attacker. The courts are seeing if they review the original dicision that this was self defense. People here are mad because we're seeing more violence and the good guys are facing trouble for defending ourselves.
@DemonpukeSelf defense in my eyes. F Around find out.
@jasonmcclain8632This is not murder⌠if he didnât have a gun heâd probably have been harmed-a bonk on his head or something plus the pickup guy backed up to give the red shirt space but he kept approaching.
@EdwardKamaunbrows878F that. He should be let free! He grabbed his firearm because the crazy guy had a weapon! Yes he put it down, but still advanced a man with a firearm! That is a crazy person who would take your gun and shoot you! He even tried to just wound him. Let him free!
@MyNicca2A fender bender and road rage is no excuse to pull weapons or firearms out on each other and kill each other period.
@Same-5-n8frChicken with mayo?
@DrPharmaToxI'd say in most States this is a justified self defense shooting.
I got rear ended by someone who didn't have insurance once and they go on the offensive to try to intimidate you to let it go.