The Truth About FIRE - Is Early Retirement Actually Possible?
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Mentioned YouTuber videos:
- Nate O'Brien: https://youtu.be/iJRA-3g7cG4
Of course it is. Even on a budget, you can achieve it with two stones and dry leaves.
- Ryan Scribner: https://youtu.be/URES59zcNyg
- Our Rich Journey: https://youtu.be/KR_eIoIo2vU
Not fire but a rather wealthy and supportive family instead.
I imagine just the ability to walk away from any job is crucial.
I work from home half the time and signed a bunch of documents that they can demand we go back to the office full time. Now I only applied there because it was work from home half the time. It's a 20 miles drive.
So yea, I signed the "we can demand you come back" stuff because frankly, the moment they ask me I shrug and quit.
- Andrei Jikh: https://youtu.be/AtM5UFlOCGs
- Graham Stephan: https://youtu.be/5S2cRNveZgg
Fire is like "The Wonderful Story of Henry Sugar", you start out wanting to retire, and in doing everything required, realize you no longer want to retire.
You've probably heard about the "FIRE Movement," but is early retirement possible? We discuss the concept (and its drawbacks) in today's video.
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I know this video is 5 years old, but I think it would be really helpful to point out that there are now multiple ways that FIRE has evolved. I think CoastFI is the one that makes the most sense when it comes to creating that freedom and flexibility most desire.
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Host/Editor: Richard Coffin
Producer: Craig Lord
"I, myself, am lucky enough to enjoy the work I do." sure buddy, tell that - else the boss man wont be happy😂😂
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Barista FIRE is what I lean towards
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The title is intriguing and does a great job building curiosity without feeling misleading 👍
@HullbreachimminentThe FIRE movement is fascinating, but I think the real question isn’t “how fast can you retire?” — it’s “what are you retiring to?”
Financial independence without purpose can feel empty. Curious to hear how others balance freedom and meaning.
Im pretty sure that all those people that say it worked for them are exaggerating or had a lot of help from mommy and daddy. I received assistance from my dad but at least I'm honest.
I'm 32 and close to a semi retirement, but I'm still planning on working because I don't want to live an austere lifestyle. This semi retirement will also give me the flexibility of quitting a job when I get tired of it and exploring other career paths.
So if I wanna live with 6 figures in retirement I only need 3 million dollars! Easy, right?!
@hyrules_overlordIt's possible if your parents are rich
@UnratedPlayer21Fire is obtainable but you must act quickly as time can either work for you or against you. Obviously achieving fire is easier if you are able to reduce liability and focus on adding assets. You have to decide with every dollar spent if you want to have nice things or less stress. You don’t have to cut everything completely but the more you do cut off, the faster you can reach that goal.
@allentu7177Look, in the FIRE commuinty the majority of people (90%) who achieved FIRE are either Lean-FIRE or barista-FIRE, meaning that they either just "get by" or have to earn some extra income by uploading youtube videos, blogging, par-time job, etc to "get by".
They have $200 to $300 extra leftover a month after all the expenses, for some, probably none at all. That's just getting-by, not the kind of retirement people usually dream about.
There are only 10%, I'd call it as ideal retirement, who are in Fat-FIRE. They have disposable income of $1,000 to $2,000 a month extra to enjoy life (as a single). For a couple, double it to $4,000 a month fun money after all the expenses.
Typical FIRE is to SURVIVE, not thrive. After all, no one can live luxurious life on $40K to $50K/ yr income. For a single, $75K upwards, for a couple $140K upwards belong to Fat-FIRE in my FIRE dictionary. And of course, this assumes fully paid-off home, no mortgage, no car payment, etc.
Idk but I think Barista fire is nice. Just reducing work time. It does not to be as aggressive. You can safe 30-50% as well. Like this you can make vacations have a car etc. But surely like this you will work until 40-45. and starting there you can go part time for example or something like 20 hours a weak
@romanbecker1403Thanks for this video. I have a family so FIRE isn't realistic. I'm aiming for GO, ROT. Grow Old, Retire OnTime😂. Hopefully😂
@nunyabusiness863haven't watched the full video yet so maybe you have touched on it, but: despite increasing your expenses a lot, moving out will also give you the full motivation and the feeling of urgency many people need. after all the main reason for not investing, in many cases, is not "not having the money to do so" but because they don't feel like it.
@SoyokrasiCharity and giving is typically left out of the FIRE formulas. I can’t deal with that. Was still able to retire young as will my wife. Conservative living and avoiding the trap of consumerism is positive for all but don’t become greedy to do it. Completely self centered is a sad way to live life.
@836dmarI didn’t even know this was an option. I might actually try to do this.
@smellthelRomans 10:9-10 "That if you confess with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord," and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you confess and are saved."
@willelkins8225This video has 1.3 million views, if the fella got a dollar for every add, he'd be able to retire...
@blue7lvn245Anyone who is saying that they’re doing the fire movement and that they are retired, but has a YouTube video and or several videos and channels is not retired. YouTube takes a lot of work and they are pretending to be retired but also collecting an income from YouTube.😂😂😂
@MultiGuyver01Many if not most people are struggling with late retirement not to mention early retirement.
@statusquo1234Who would want to penny pinch for 10 years with the goal of being able to retire and continue to live the broke life for the rest of their lives? That's insane to me. How are ypu going to use all that freedom when you have no expendable income other than what you need to pay bills and eat?
@jameshutchison5048Thanks ah again
@chadjones1266FIRE is super easy to attain.
1. Open an investment account as early as possible. Maybe ask your parents to do it for you as soon as your mom delivers you. Make sure to tell them to buy Nvidia stocks.
2. Don't ever date, love or have intercourses with anyone, so you won't have kids. If that happens, it's game over.
3. Never, never spend money. If you have to, make sure you analyze each expenditures.
4. Be perfectly healthy, while eating as little as you can.
5. Study computer sciences and get the best possible job. Make sure your parents push you to study that even if you want to study something else.
6. Ideally, be born into wealth so you don't have to follow the 5 first steps.
Secret to success: Make a shitton of money and save nearly everything.
And hope you have an interesting hobby to keep you busy for decades.
My Dad is 60 and has 8 figures in retirement accounts. He retired from being a project manager at a nuclear plant aged 55. Came back the next Monday as a contractor doing the same job. In November this year he retired again from that contract agency, took a week off and came back as a project manager again for even more pay and less travel. He just likes his job and wants to keep doing it. He just hasn't liked the pay at his government job, they were going to make him take a 15% pay cut, and the travel at the second one, he was spending about 2 months out of the year traveling to plants around the country.
Find a job you like and you don't need to retire early, or at all. He's said he plans to keep working until 70 if he can.
Why are you assuming that the person has to live in US and spend in $? He can move to Vietnam or Indonesia too and live like a king 👑
@sudosaiLeft out Healthcare
@gjmsYou the best man
@dinchuk5581I'm shooting for FI as fast as possible and making all the sacrifices to do so. However, its more about the security. I will probably never stop working, I loved building my business and it brings me happiness.
@limpqizbuitSo 3:00 do you know that research on past performance show that 4% rule live people with mostly double they initial investment, many with triple at they death?
Which mean they don't have $0 at 95, but most two times or more of initial investment.
Hardcore fire people live on less than 10k a year like Anne Hill (book: voyaging on small income) I dont think there is a fixed sum of money that it is aimed for. You just save as much as you can for 10years (50% of income) and continue to live. If you can live on 50% you can live on fire returns. There are no real number.
@vaidotasratkus7619I am personally pursuing FIRE to become financially independent. It seems like a great way to grow ones income concurrently with one's job, without it falling into a scam where some dude sells you a course on how to get rich quick. The ones I mostly watch don't sell courses, they just tell you the brutal truth and give you standard financial advice like using tax advantaged accounts, prioritizing high-ROI skills and degrees, avoiding high-risk speculations like crypto or options, and that luck matters; predicting windfalls is unpredictable. I don't want to retire early, I just simply want work to be enjoyable instead of stressful. If I can even reach a 3rd of the nest egg I calculated, considering taxes, I'm happy
@lateralTraceThe biggest lesson from early retirement? Freedom is valuable, but routine keeps you sane.
@FreedomFi48I've been retired since 28
@bobrobert1123its not about not working, it's about choosing to work. no one being able to hold that power over you ever again
@shanedraper240692I get all the reasons one might have to work even after achieving "FIRE", but as someone who is still in the beginning of her career and cannot imagine being able to work truly on my own terms beyond tutoring, I would absolutely be perfectly fine with never working a day in my life ever again if I could actually pull it off (eg. major lottery winnings). There is SO much more to life than work — hobbies, spending time with friends and loved ones, taking care of my health and well-being, traveling, AND YES, even RELAXING and ENJOYING MYSELF without having to constantly be productive. Heaven forbid someone actually have enough they want to do outside of being a constant productivity machine either with the burdens of entrepreneurship / solo employment, enough to actually survive and live out these rich experiences, or having to work on someone else's schedule (9-5+ endlessly until you die).
@onedirectionlover3173% is an extremely low withdrawal. The person that coined the 4% rule back in the 90s has actually come back and revised it to 4.6% for someone ~65. They said the change was mostly result the result how much easier it is to diversify your investments now, then it was in the 90s. Keep in mind back than we depended on a much smaller number of mutual funds than today and no ETFs. Not to mention the high fees in mutual funds even today (higher back in the 90s). Anyway, I would argue anyone 40+ could very very safely use 4%. Anything below that should be because you want 99.8% certainty you won't run out of money. Also keep in mind you could die young and than buying 'certainty' was all for nothing and a waste of years working. Way more than 1 in 500 people die before 70! Anyway, 4%! No need to go lower.
@901blitz1.7 million, you're going to have normal years where you're pulling in 170k in gains and you only need 50k of that. Most people that retire didn't get there by blowing their money. Odds are if you saved 1.7 million and retired early, you're more likely to die with 10 million than 0.
@goon5544Extravagant vacations aren’t too far fetched for FIRE followers actually; that’s what points and miles are for.
@jwil428624/7 partying on beaches is cheap and easy (eg thailand)
no need for it to be private that's 10000x the cost for no reason
I'm not 60 yet, but even I think 30s is too early
@janeprepper177There is a guaranteed method to achieve fire by online trading with profitable methods like the one on my channel, where there also is my rproof of profitability.
You can get rich quick in trading if taught by a good and skilled mentor like me. Larry Williams in 1987 made about 11 300% interest in a year, in an audited and well regulated trading competition of the world trading competitions. Research on this.
Though I am saving cash as hard as possible and am inspired by FIRE, I have never wanted to live an extravagant life. The stress free future is more what I pursue.
@knightsolaire3781Most early retirees don't need to reduce their withdrawal rate to 3% because:
--Pretty small cuts in spending after stock market downturns go a long way toward keeping your portfolio intact.
--The 4% rule also assumes no one will get a dime from Social Security, a pension, inheritance, or any other type of windfall.
Overall, a pretty well balanced video.
If I choose to live overseas, I may just want 3-4% of what I could save(480,000-600000)
@yrugæ-q3lVery down to earth and factual. Thanks for bringing clarity and truthfulness to the world 🙏🙌
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