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The Ohio House of Horror Wasn't the Beginning. It Started Years Earlier.

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Newly uncovered records and interviews are providing a clearer picture of the Siders family long before authorities discovered 16 children living in horrific conditions inside an Ohio home. Court documents, birth records, and statements from relatives have raised new questions about Elizabeth Siders' early life, her marriage at age 15, and the years leading up to one of the most disturbing child endangerment cases in recent memory. As investigators continue to piece together the family's history, the story behind what happened appears to stretch back much further than the day police arrived.

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IF eleizabeth willing og tmarried to her boyfriedn thats bad - her parrents allowed it leike jen said to wash their hands of her- thats also bad because then hwo was she raised in that house. what was she tuaght. she wasnt in shcool at the time she got married?? liz then already was a t a disadvantage ns if gary sr had ex with her or abused not necesairly haveing kids with her yea she is a vicitm if any. ANY of that is true. but cleary she as a 33 yr had time ot ask for help can anyone prove that she did seek help or did she not cause her parents didnt help her her boyfriend didn thelp her, his parent didnt help her why would anyone else... but ultimatel she's now the adult she'll get hit wit a big punishemtn cause people tend to punish women - mothers harder even if they were victims themn selves and every time some state/gov official could done something also turned a blind eye.... i htink you have 3 criminals and 4 people with low iqs . if senior boy get off cause he's mentally incapacitated the the case is doen and its not abotu justice anymore , its abotu punishment and the facts dont matter.

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i need to see photos of the interior and listen to the 4 talk normally - that alone would explain a lot. 'low iq and ignorance' might be the culprit here like a brother of elizabeth said. and if that's true why didn't the state step in long before htis.

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deplorable... hhhhmmm sounds like we have some hillary clinton fans - cause their face book photos DON'T make sense with what is being said they found in that home. 2 entirely different persepectives. which is right, your assumptions about some one or their acural lived experience?

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It seems like Elizabeth is a se#ual abuse victim to the men in the house who are constantly keeping her pregnant. And she is pregnant currently. She was rescued too.

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35:47 Old man looks like he is in the Whitakers family.

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So was fletcher and his wife not around when they got married!??? Was that not a red flag!???? Willingly there, at 13!!!!???

@sukoshimama
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My dog 🐶 makes my day better, everyday!!

@mylazysundaysify
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They are saying 3 sets of twins WOW they could have made a lot of money having a TV show had they had enough sense and for god sakes treated the kids like they should have

@BrendaMerrow
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Hey I'm #10 of 13 and my mom was pregnant every 14 months me an #9 are almost 2 years apart outside of that bout every 14 months

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Tuning in from centra Pa.

@joycestjohn1159
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Cat on lap purring.

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I'm sorry you were demonitized. Commenting for algorithm. ❤

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Replay crew: small things...sunshine and coffee, watching from northern CO

@LilacLime19
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They say abuse what is all the abuse they have only said a few things

@pamelagideon7762
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What makes my day better is a coffee in the morning. If I don't have my coffee it throws off my entire day. As for this 16 kids case, unless some of the children were born at home from the grandmother and then the mother claimed them, or the parents are brother and sister or cousins, if the mother gave birth to all of them then how could there be incest?

@tashspond
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I'm confused now. I thought Sr was dad Jr was son?

@Rubytravis1983
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Listening to my daughter (9) sing at the top of her lungs In the backseat or when she's in the shower. Just makes all my heart happy listening to her ❤

@gladysbreeland7101
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Why do their eyes look like that?

@b_b_b5k
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Resources to help are strapped everywhere. Instead of applying bandaids for problems, we should try to prevent the problems from occurring. Not a popular opinion, but why is everyone allowed to breed their dogs, cats, and people without regulation? Not everyone is allowed to drive. Not everyone is allowed to be a doctor. But everyone is allowed to reproduce, and not everyone is qualified.

@TF-mw4sy
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6:04 as soon as I saw all of them I said they are all related. They all look alike

@cynthialynncochran2019
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20:25 outta here 😕

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May God bless every one of them 😢❤

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There is horrible behavior going on in wealthy homes also. It just doesn’t look as ugly from the surface

@ClaudiaJames-q9y
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❤️‍🔥🙊...sad and unfortunate situation: but it goes to show you the gamut of "the human condition" in conflict with "the human nature" ...there was no way nobody knew that something was noticeable "not correct" for more than a decade or two.

While accountability is on the ballet, that is a give, moving forward who is going to take responsibility for the aftermath:

Usually children are born innocent to the "SINS" of there parents or previous generations... not the case of the adults but it is not as polarized for the children...you can not just recreate "normalcy" in a world where it is ask what is a woman verse the hell impose on those many children.

Healthy Integration and alleviating trauma as well as contributing of cognitive declined. Especially if the larger variants of neurological divergence or neurological typical character traits may be predominant factors... I know it is a stretch but these kids need to know humanity still exists regardless of individual perspectives. Else what would be the point of claiming to save the children only the make matters worse.

It would demonize the principle of recovery: in a hypothetical sense— of a prehistoric person at a cross road attempting to engage in dialogue with an extraterrestrial humanoid and actual human beings ...Even aquatic life requires some level of Equanimity, much more of complex organisms.

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Sadly low iq must play a part! Who has that many kids when they clearly can’t handle it?

@lruss5050
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Look unless this woman is giving birth to multiple sets of twins, something else is going on in that house, that woman would have to have been consistently pregnant one after the other for 18 years, There is no way that there are several one year olds and several 2-year-olds unless she is having twins

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Patting the cat. Cats are always happy with a pat.

@kgoddard1005
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27:00 we don’t talk enough about child marriage in the US

@louhortonsculpture
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When claim is made about the possibility of incest because of deformities and defects - those children should be born not from Elizabeth, because if she had them from Gary the elder , there is no incest biologically speaking. So it implies that those deformed kids were born by elder girls by their dad or grandad..

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No coffindaffer

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Gavin, long time no see! You look great.
I hadn't watched any coverage of this case so far, but my immediate reaction is that it's reminding me of Josef Fritzl in Austria. I can only hope it's not quite that horrific.
Best wishes to you, your family and of course Wanda.

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Damn

@jodijones33
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I agree DNA proof is needed.

@margaret0847
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I believe this 33 year old mother with 16 children, could be a victim.

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I believe these foster parents, will have to be educated for special needs children. They certainly would have their work cut out for them. The chicken will need much love. 💕
This is so sad!

@margaret0847
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Yes Elizabeth Ciders is a victim.

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Oceanside CA, walking with my dog

@lisabagot6680
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Northwest, Ohio here.

@margaret0847
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Kindness

@harmony-y4b
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Poverty at your lowest form,also looks like non of them had anyone to give a friendly hand to show them what they could get help and God knows they needed help, I'm sure they qualified in lots of ways,these adult's we were not knowledgeable in a lot of ways if not distrusting,,not defending them but there's no need not any of these people profited in any way they all are just totally uneducated on how to help theirselves in this cruel world we live in all them folks guilty of is being without anyone's help to get to the right help

@LinnieHodapp
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Bla blah blah

@ravenlee7
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I know of a family in WV that had 22 children and only one set of twins-(the last 2 born) they lived at the end of the road I live on--

@pamelablack5720
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part of the problem is when CPS takes kids out of a home--the judges give them back--further harming the kids and causing people to not want to foster kids

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Wayne County WV checking in--

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