The Macintosh LC III Is Better Than You Remember
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I used a Mac LC (I don't think it was an LCII, but it's been a long time) from around September of 1991 until the power supply died somewhere in 1996 or 1997. I LOVED that machine. I'd have kept using it if it hadn't died on me. I upgraded to different obsolete Mac (I don't remember which one), and then I upgraded that one a little later with yet another obsolete Mac. I used that until 2002, when I got a job at a place where they assigned me a Windows laptop. At that point, hanging on to the old platform just seemed impractical. I kept it around for several more years for access to legacy files, but then, once Open Office / Libre Office appeared, with the ability to translate anything, I no longer needed it. By then, it was somewhere in the mid-late 00's, I think. That's when I sent it off to the reclamation center.
Sometimes the LC III can be overshadowed by how crummy the LC and LC II were. Lets refresh our memories about this great Mac from the 90s.
Thanks @GarthBeagle for all of your help with this video and for sending me the machine.
This was a satisfying watch. You now have me tempted to get an LC III. Haha!
Thanks @helfire23 for the BlueSCSI shenanigans
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I grew up with a IIgs then we got a Performa 575.
The LC Power Supply (LC ATX) is available at https://jcm-1.com/product/lc-atx-build-a-kit/
Info on overclocking the LC III: https://lowendmac.com/2014/overclocking-the-mac-lc-series/
Love this channel so much.
Info on the backwards capacitor: https://www.downtowndougbrown.com/2024/11/the-capacitor-that-apple-soldered-incorrectly-at-the-factory/
All music by me.
Love it!! Now i wanna get an LCIII, had an LCII around 1996.. always wanted something more powerful back than..
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I love my little Color Classic w/BlueSCSI but yeah, the 10MB and 16-bit data bus really hinder it. One day I'll Mystic it. Thanks for this video, I definitely have a higher opinion of the LCIII now (though realistically I'd probably just look for a Quadra 605 for that form factor).
@darrenmontjar7168I LOVE the music!
@SirenaWF1Severe flashback to this gem. But it may have been an LCII I was using in the old days as a graphic artist for college level calculus books by Pearson Education, Houghton Mifflin, etc, tons of fun on those MACs in super old Illustrator.
@muttBunchWish you took the time to show and explain the resedit hackery
@elv1swest770Nice! I remember doing the 25 to 33Mhz hack with an LC475 sporting a 68LC040 in the mid-90s. I stupidly drank four cups of coffee before I started, so my hands were shaking, but it went OK despite my crummy soldering iron.
@smilesprayI was worried for a bit that you weren’t going to overclock it. Love the new PSU!
@BigBadBenchWhat I’ve always liked about the LC series: Finally there was a Mac you could connect a decent monitor to out of the box and without the price point of the II series. But I’ve bought an Atari Mega ST 2 some years before. Not in the same league in processing power, but the 70Hz SM124 black and white monitor with its crystal clear and sharp picture was excellent, and for gaming, well, thanks to SCART here in Europe the color graphics on my TV weren’t lacking, too. RGB directly from the Atari to the TV electronics!
@ZeguyfromgermanyA few years ago I was uncovering my collection of classic Macs from storage, in order to recap and refurbish them. Some of these were from my father's estate, who passed away in 2016. To my surprise, in one of the boxes I found a Performa 460 aka LC III+ that I didn't know about. My father must have acquired that from his own accord sometime without telling me, so that was a very unexpected and belated surprise gift. It was still in very good shape; only one small capacitor had leaked to any meaningful extent. I performed the usual maintenance, replacing all the caps with tantalums (I also made sure to reverse the -5V cap when I learned of that problem) and replacing the battery holder with a CR2032 holder. Then I decided to have some fun with it: I maxed out both RAM and VRAM, added a 68882 FPU and placed a Sonic Ethernet card in the PDS slot. Performance is really great. It holds its own against the Mac IIci, with only the cache card giving the IIci a small edge. Overall a fun and useful machine, and I'm happy to have it in my collection.
@Astfgli wounder if with a network connected blueSCSI if the folder for the scanner could be a network share were you could have a network scanner scan to it.
@jjjacerAlways stupid & always a treat. "Oh, there's stuff on here." Another gutbomb classic.😑
@EricKinkeadThe LCIII was my first computer. LC = Low Cost
@derekawlink to info on 'ResEdit hackery'?
@df3030-z1uResEdit... im getting flashbacks to my one year of college at TCU and their CompSci course at the time.
@Dreamshadow1977My first real Mac was an LC III. I'd played with my dad's PowerBook 140 every time he wasn't using it, and he brought home an old Plus from a storage closet at work that booted to a Sad Mac after a couple of months, but the LC III was my first dedicated computer. He also got the Apple Multimedia Kit, with the AppleDesign speakers and 2x caddy-loading CD-ROM drive. I played Journeyman Project and, of course, Myst.
@jonathankleinow2073The LC III is a kickass machine. It's perfect for playing the early game library as long as they run on System 7.
@TVsBenI remember that during this period a new device would come out every few months it felt like. So whatever you bought it would be out of date almost immediately.
@BostichI had an LCIII that I got out of the trash at my elementary school. Wish I still had it.
@RyCorp77Great video GutBomb! The LC is a great computer and will never forget playing games on my friends LC III when I was young. Also great to see a Garth cameo!!! 😊
@Mr.MacintoshAh, good old moof...I like the comment (from Low End Mac, I think) that LC series machines were so common that people swore they were still making them somewhere, like Morris Minors.
@edherdman9973Still no L2 cache card. The IIci with one still beats it.
@kirishima638The LC III makes a great web server too.
@BranchusCreationsWow, this one does not even have a pretense of being potentially crummy.
@TalismookHoly hell I had that UMAX scanner, used it with my PM6100 though so didn't have the 68k problems :)
@nyuniPIZZA BOX !! My very first computer was a Performa 475.....bought in 1994....with my very first credit card...at Sears. Bundled with a 14 inch monitor, kybd & mouse all in one giant beautifully decorated box. Using System 7 made the hair stand up on the back of my head.. I've been a Mac person ever since and I am watching this now from my base Indigo Neo.
@goobfilmcast4239ResEdit, that's a name I've not heard in a long time.
@billchavez8473AI SLOP
@diehlrI still need to take the time to adapt my LC III+ to take 64 megs, for a total of 68 megs. Even with just 36 megs, it can compile large packages like perl just fine, even if it does take nine days.
@SysadminJohnWent from a IIe to an LCIII many years ago, what an upgrade. Especially after adding the FPU.
@willidiotsI love this channel, the vibes, the music, the whole thing!
@ceruleanserpent387He should go all out and do a BlueSCSI v3 that has 2 or more SD slots. Dedicate entire SD cards to virtual scanners/cameras....because why not.... :P
@MagnumForce51I have an lc 3 and it’s definitely my favorite Mac in my collection for sure 👍
@stevecomputerjunk13:39 Fun fact: In some LC III models, Apple shipped 68030 16MHz CPUs overclocked to 25MHz and stuck a sticker over the CPU with "updated" markings, changing the speed to 25MHz 😆
@GarthBeagleThe LCIII/Performa 4xx (whichever that one was, the 475?) were perfectly cromulent machines. The LC/LCII however, that 16bit data bus and RAM limit really hit hard.
Also, "let's update it to 8.1!"
You, sir, are certifiable.
I had the LC II and my friend had the LC III and it was like different worlds as to what they could do on the early web.
@s734musicLCIII was my first Mac. I loved it! I really wish I would have kept it.
@fourthhorseman4531I really liked my LC-III. Had lots of fun on it poodling around in Symantec C++ and compiling stuff on NetBSD with some patience. Great little system.
@VK2FVAXI have the LC 1 and Performa 460.
@MacCrafter707Yes the LC lll it's a nice little computer not crummy
@DavesVintageApplTechFIRST!!!!
@bhstone1I had an original LC at home and used the LC III at work for layout of a book in the summer of '93. Normally workplaces before this used the more expensive IIci. I saw the LC III as an obtainable maybe 2x faster LC.
@MacinMindSoftwareThe LC III was our first family computer. Many fond memories of this one! Apple really hit a perfect balance with it.
@millsnerdI'm a big fan of the LC475, I haven't used the LCIII that much so interested to watch!
@michaeldale837I had the LC and the LC2 outside of the apple II card letting me do that scene on a VGA monitor, this should be interesting as being burned twice (second hand decades after the fact) LC and Performa can kiss my butt
@osgeldwha.. did Squakers send you that?
@GarthBeagle