Should the EU Become a Federation Like the US?
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A United States of Europe? Here's What Could Happen Next!
Well, the EU should certainly NOT be a federation like the DisUnited State of America actually is in practice.
Surely, the EU nations can be more mature and civilized than that snakepit.
Could the EU become a true federation, like the USA, with shared powers and a common army? We break down the options the EU faces and what it means for Europe's future.
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This would be like the UK, where they are all united but each remain separate countries
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YES AND YES! Preferably without the far-right/identiterian bs.
The UEF is a supranational, non-governmental political organization who are committed to the struggle for a European Federation endowed with supranational institutions with limited but real sovereign powers.
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G’day from Oz. Well explained. The Federal Model is a no-brainer for Europe and will really turbocharge the EU. One thing to be very careful about is how you choose the Head of State. In Australia, we explored that concept in our referendum on whether we should become a Republic. It is a very complex issue. Do you want to vote for say a President who must become a politician and campaign and be beholden to the ‘money’ that got them there. Or do you want member countries to each nominate a high integrity person beyond reproach to apolitically represent your Union. A process would then see a consensus of State Leaders appoint the Head of State. The first option could result in a Trump, or a Hitler who believe that they have a mandate to rule by decree. The second option could result in a highly respected person like say Queen Elizabeth who acts for the best of the Union, but does not exercise Power. No doubt there will be other options as well. The resultant Head of State model will have a profound impact on the success and longevity of a Federated EU.
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I was confused by the law and justice being exclusively Federal in your hypothetical (mirroring the FBI) because in the U.S., it is a shared power with most of the crimes being at the state level. The idea that a central EU police could deal with every crime in every member state seems a bit preposterous.
The big picture though seems likely that the EU becomes stronger in some ways while some powers revert to the member states. There are already some shared education elements (ERASMUS), so that can’t be entirely reverted to the member states. It seems that defense and immigration enforcement will be the main impetus for this reform if it occurs.
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Oh my how things have changed since uploading of this video.....few people in the EU want us to be like the current US.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Departments_of_France
As a French, I'm 80% for a federalist European Union
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Administrative_divisions_of_France
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politics_of_the_United_States
NO!!
https://unacademy.com/content/upsc/study-material/general-awareness/which-are-the-countries-that-are-the-federal-states/#:~:text=Explore%20examples%20of%20federalism%20from,vast%20and%20complex%20democracies%20exist.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unitary_state#:~:text=Unitary%20states%20stand%20in%20contrast,under%20some%20kind%20of%20federation.
Around minute 7:40 you forgot to include Sardinia when you highlighted Italy on the map of Europe :(
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unitary_state#/media/File:Map_of_unitary_and_federal_states.svg
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_punishment_in_the_United_States#:~:text=In%20the%20United%20States%2C%20capital,penalty%20for%20some%20military%20offenses.
I do not think European countries can agree on matters of governance, we barerly get co operative matters of mutual interests decided and enacted, #### it actually took couple of years into Russia Ukraine war, for talk of whether Russia actually is a threath to become a minority opinion, so being one unified country, we’d either get nothing done, or a civil war.
Better option, would be to just have better leaders, showing some backbone in this world where “big brother” went psycho, if strong enogh leader emerges to unify Europe, unified nation could be possible, whitout instantly shattering, but I don’t see anyone of augustuses capability emerging, but one by committee? An act of self deleation, whit too many divergent ideas of “should be’s”.
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Yes and no. Federation in Europe means countries have their languages dialects and cultures to protect, while the US does not need that on any federal or state level.
Education should be free on any level in Europe while in the US it's a mess from home to public and private schooling where kids are still allowed to be physically assaulted by those in charge, to vastly overpriced and marketed Universities so they may claim a ranking at anyone prepared to publish their findings for a fee. 😢
It's been more than a year, but just had a thought..
Maybe you could make a video about Federal Europe:
USE (United States of Europe) is the worst version of USA combined with average version of USSR.
EUSSR is the best version of USSR, and the average version of USA.
I know it seems controversial, but I believe that if Europe will federalize sooner or later, we should know what it will look like (*realistically*).. Personally, I believe the EU is losing its democratic touch, since the last elections, and it is going towards one of these directions.. either in practice, in ideology or even in the full name and meaning itself.
Yes, EU should become the federation, if someone doesn't want it should stay out..
@kucnimajstor2901Absolutelly. Go vegan
@RynaxAlienGosh you’re ambitious. Hungary vs Swede vs France vs UK. I still hope.
@columbus7950No.
@boris2307Once U.S.Europe will happen, we will take control of much of the world.
@CosminLexandruDisgusting idea, i will take arms to protect Sweden from european imperalism.
@KAD010900Well, let's go down the numbers, starting with the US:
50 relatively similar states (sure there are some regional differences, but they're nothing compared to differences between different countries), with a long history of camaraderie (they even had to fight side-by-side to attain independence).
Only 1 war between the states
1 common language (although some people want to change that by importing large numbers of people who don't speak said language)
Largely 1 political system where exact region doesn't matter TOO much at the federal level
And now for the EU:
27 vastly different nations, with a long history of fighting each other
Countless wars between the states
24 different languages
28 different political systems (at least), where different states are always in a tug-of-war over central power
Amaury de Riencourt even once said that the Europeans and Americans are a lot like the Greeks and Romans, respectively.
(Should also note that when I say "political system", I don't simply mean constitution; I mean all the other political mechanisms that operate both inside and outside government)
EU is designed to keep the Russians out and the Germans (and native Europeans in general down)
It is actively replacing it's indigenous population and because of the EU your people will perish.
It can't be swept under the carpet . Those innocents sacrificed at the altar of multiculturalism by lunatics who are OBSESSED with xenophilia.
Let the Russians, Chinese or yanks take over they have basically done so anyways .
I would be absolutely for it ... strong together. The United States would not like to have a strong, united Europe against them. But that would be the right way. The only way in my opinion
@Painless61YES U.S.E IMMIDIATELLY
@actube10A Federal Europe, with Canada as best friend, would create a powerhouse and give Europe a realistic chance to survive the clashes of the "Titans".
@DietrichBeckEuropean federation should adopt system of checks and balances.
@MrOmrikonalphaOnly way forward is decentralized federation.
@MrOmrikonalphaEurope needs to federalise
@liamschreibman8268all states in america should be separate like eu and be urself
@red_zone_artIf the federation is too strict it implodes if it’s too loose it’s sluggish. There must be a compromise.
We must do away with th veto and keep the principle of helping each other to raise a common living standard.
If not a Federal Europe then at least a common army since we are facing difficult times on our continent.
@marius7910united states of europe what a dream
@leisuretime4756Yes, this is the future of the EU, but with some defining differences. I would not call it the United States of Europe, since that would simply be incorrect. It will be the European Union, with important internal differences from what we are now. We will need our European army. We will have an internal tax and possibly more systems will be likely more equal to various economies in the EU, but not all, so we will get a staged and level membership. I foresee a candidate level with reforming focus. I will see an entry level, with financial reforming and tax reforming, as well as internal economic advances. I see a basic level member state in which also the Euro will become introduced, as well as membership to work towards the last level. And I see a founder level in which we will see full membership and defined specific economic and international roles for various member states, also the role of being part of the European army. There is way more details I would like to add, but that will become a book right here. So let me leave it at this. It will look more like a mix between what we have and a federation of European nations, which would be implied in to my model. My model comes closer to the Swiss model. With some roles partly back to national government, and some move towards EU.
@Incorruptus2Federalism will be the end of the EU...
... it will move the EU in the wrong direction.
The EU needs a few more crises, or an aggravation of the current ones, for it to move to more federal powers.
I'm guessing joint defense production of fewer weapons but spread across the Union would be a good catalyst.
This could be followed by regional joint commands, along with a central command staff drawing widely within the bloc.
In some ways what has delayed further integration has been the weakness of Russia (it's not a credible opponent in a conventional war) along with US assurances of participation in defending NATO, and, by extension, the EU, especially if a war threatens to become non-conventional. Both of these variables are changing in the direction that the EU (along with non-EU local states) must go to further integration.
But, in short, the EU isn't going backwards, not when it already controls the Baltic and the Med as well as the North Atlantic. It has the second most important currency in the world, which favors all the minnows in the EU, who would not otherwise be able to protect their own turf.
I could go on, but it's not necessary.
Like the US? Are you drunk? Or on something else?
@jaapfolmer7791Would never happen unfortunaley...
@TheHiddenEconomy-v3fi’m tired of being bullied, federalize a core EU, now. Putin, Xi and Trump disrespect anything that isn’t a nuclear superpower. They threaten our prosperity, culture and freedom. We can’t allow that, we must act, now.
@bestevaer1977From a German perspective, one of the problems with the EU is that too much power ends up in the hands of bureaucrats in Brussels, making decisions feel distant from ordinary citizens. Some countries pay much more into the EU budget and receive less back, while others contribute less but get more support in return.
A better balance would be more decentralization for areas like energy, borders and other internal policies, where local realities matter. Germany is the EU’s largest economy by GDP, yet our wages don’t increase accordingly. We lack control over our borders and energy policy, while the EU imposes rules on us. More power should go to individual states, but stronger central coordination should exist only where it’s truly necessary, especially in defense and security, where unity is essential
ah yes, lets help greedy globalists even more!
@dawae4623We need more cooperation, especially militarily, but a true federation wouldn't work...
What I WOULD like is for the EU to allow its citizens to vote on EU representitives directly in stead of leaving this up to national parties and to allow direct democratic voting on shared issues. We have the technology, make it happen!
I hope for English in every school, properly regulated monopolies, immigration done right, human rights, fair taxation, a strong and fair army, good healthcare, low pollution, human and animal rights, and properly regulated technology and progress.
One can only hope...only education and smart people could make this come true, but we have done many incredible things as humans, so I can only hope it's possible.
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Only, Sane decision of the Member States of the So called EU is to Revert back to what the People of Europe Believed in & NOT an Independent Dictatorial Autocratic PROTECTORATE Administration.
The EEC (European Economic Community) a Trading Block that Accommodates the Basic Workings of Trade Activity throughout Europe.