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Grammys boss warns about the 'threat' of AI music | BBC News

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As president of The Recording Academy, which organises the Grammy Awards, Panos A. Panay is grappling with how artificial intelligence and streaming is transforming the music industry, often at the expense of artists.

Musicians have outsources their trade to machines and AI. They did it to themselves out of necessity. One pedal eliminates both the drummer and bass player. Another vocal pedal eliminates background singers. What is left is one person that will soon be replaced by AI all together. AI has progressed very rapidly, writing and singing songs and producing all the background music. It is certainly not yet a finished product, but if it has advanced this much in only a few years, what will it be capable of in ten years if the trend continues? There are only a small fraction of venues that provide live music at the local and State level. I detest where all this is going, but the realist in me simply can't deny the impending demise of the musician. Those who maintain that AI will never replace human creativity should preach it to all the unemployed musicians in the world who were replaced by AI. Creativity is a poor replacement for food. Rest assured, BBC. AI will also replace you in the near future.

— @TheTroyallen23

A former agent who worked with the likes of Leonard Cohen and Nina Simone, Panos spoke on Radical with Amol Rajan about his love of music and how that led to him becoming one of the most influential figures in the industry.

And against the backdrop of record-breaking tours from Beyonce and Taylor Swift, he reflects on why the next generation of artists like Sabrina Carpenter are forging real connections with audiences through live performances.

He's an industry pleb that's paid by the record labels to inflate their roster sales. You can literally hear him redacting his own thoughts. Next time interview someone with some backbone.

— @PrimaudiaRecord

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I think he makes a strong point about disclosure. AI-generated music is here, whether people like it or not, but as listeners we have a right to know when music is AI-generated.
Obviously it gets more complicated when AI is used only for certain elements, a vocal, sound design, effects, etc. But that’s different from music that’s fully generated by prompts or is essentially 100% AI.
And if AI producers want to defend this as a legitimate art form (which many do), then surely they should be willing to stand behind it and be transparent about what they’re making, not obscure it.

— @jonnystrinati

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So first he's against AI music, but then at 10:54 he doesn't mind it as long as he gets to make money out of it. No integrity.

— @charliegnu

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He....is...watching....what....he...says. Don't blame him, in this day and age where folks will slice and dice what you say.

@ZavayJones
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Sienna Rose has a creator. pay him the royalties. You have no idea the stress it take to develop LLMs and these AI music site are not free. someone is paying subscriptions to be able to create Sienna Rose. These investments deserves profit.

@elah2000gh
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Al I’ve got to these people who talk the talk don’t perform got no idea what’s it like to play a real instrument or be creative?

@TheMagicktony
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AI is overdoing pointless things

@BongLim-x4w
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Get rid of AI

@tailrj
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The poor satanists what a pity

@stevenmcghee5254
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Spotify should be more like a store.
Artists should be able to upload music behind a paywall for fans who wants early access to music and then it can become available after a month or two. Don’t know logistically how that would work but an idea

@BrodieKellyMusic
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bbc, then replace that fool with me as new grammys boss

@auro1986
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Dont worry just make your own music on vinyl and play your own instruments live

@Wizardman-q5w
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BBC = FAKE NEWS

@Youcanthandlethetruth435
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Ai is the best thing that has happened in the music industry this t has eliminated the need for studio time and the hiring of musicians you can simply write a few prompts and bring the ideas that lives in your mind and head alive it helps to democratise the music industry of course like everything else it has its down sides too

@aadeeno
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It’s a scary thought that we could be listening to hit songs and feeling deep emotions for artists who don’t even exist outside of a computer server. If we let AI flood the market just to save streaming companies from paying royalties, we’re going to kill off the very human creativity that makes music worth listening to in the first place.

@TrueAIPodcast
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Seriously I don't know what some of you are fukn talking about. None of this AI BS should exist especially with things like music.

It could and probably will effect countless facets of music. #1 it will twice or three times as likely push people further away from picking up and learning a real musical instrument and #2, the " originality" of a real artist will be gone, and you can't never replace originality with AI and I don't care how good AI will get - the originality of a real human artist are " ideas", which means, the way it's written, the way it's played, the way it's sang and the way it's composed.

@MarkoTiano
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This Panos character is heavily involved with Amazon..total globalist puppet.

@hashtagalong
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Someone needs to build something that can tell if an social media account is human or ai.

@Mushrombo
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Lack of talent has been threatening music for decades now.

@neilrogers8037
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Well old music is kinda better, this age is of dubstep

@Mixedbeats18
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If someone is using original lyrics or music in an AI generated song they obviously need to pay royalties but AI generated original music should just be seen as another genre you either like it or you don't.

@daledevernon56
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AI makes much better music

@guff9567
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The threat of AI isn't the robot. It’s the people who call music an industry.

@Progressive_Canadian
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The end of the so-called "copyright holders" and their armies of six digits per hour lawyers threatening to sue you for whistling la-la-la under shower is near, baby, near.

@AmperSand666
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it's not fear because the artist that win don't recognise in Jamaica no won now him ,it supposing kartel is the Grammy winner

@RicardoDaley-c5q
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Listening to the winners of the grammies, I'm not so sure...

@curiositycloset2359
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Are we going to watch AI perform in concert?
The best part of a Concert is seeing the artists play their individual instruments.

@maureenjhouston
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Popular music has been muzak for over 20 years. Generic, tuneless dirges, devoid of artistry, soul and inspiration. A handful of automaton producers behind it and AI is indistinguishable from these generic dullards, it just creates tons of the same. It can copy well but not create well. This guy being interviewed even speaks like a robot.

@gregoryfilms9405
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Music is absolutely crap. Sample everything from the past, no imagination, no musical talent needed.

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@TRUNG_NGUYỄN97
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The Grammys still exist? It's a bunch of self absorbed ppl getting paid by other self absorbed ppl to tell idiots they should like the content from the self absorbed ppl that paid them the most😅 Yeah... that's about right😂

@torixc8035
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"Al" fake music should be deleted from this planet. Especially using famous singers and it's not even them, that is pathetic and people should be sued to stop all of this nonsense.

@lindablaxton9801
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AI Music is not a threat, it is a tool! Music is music no matter how it's written or made!
What's wrong with an artist using AI to write the songs and then play them live in real?
I way prefer AI music to the over-wash of Cover and tribute artists (who get treated with an unfair bias over originals). At least you can get good original music instead of a multi-multi-re covered hit!
Plus, working with AI music also helps people learn and experiment with other styles & genres outside of their comfort zone!

@GeeHarliquin1
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AI is dangerous to every artist no matter the manner of art that they produce!! It's disgusting, and I will not use it!!

@terri200
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The problem is modern music. Its fackin shite.

@hmq9052
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Still not covering Rupert Lowes grooming gang hearing……This in the public interest.

@hollytalbot6695
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No difference between AI music and much of so called Pop music.

@NoWindNoSunNoPower
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LoL.. There's a human there somewhere. Don't you need a human producer? Change the categories. Dfs.

@Utanapishtim1
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We live in times where artists ask 800 euro for tickets.
F the industry as well.
Ai is ruining a lot of things.

@nieko3038
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Copyright is based on rarity, but AI is the extinction of rarity. AI doesn't monetize 'property', it monetizes Attention and Flow. Netflix, Spotify and the big sync corporations don't need you to own the copyright. They need content that keeps the user captive. If AI generates 'ownerless' music, the big platforms will be the first to profit, eliminating the middleman (the human artist) who demanded a percentage. 'Lack of copyright' is, in fact, the biggest gift given to big corporations, not a protection for you. The lobby of billions of dollars invested in AI will rewrite the definition of 'author' much faster than you can read a sentence. The law follows technology, not the other way around. By the time your court reaches a final conclusion, the music industry will have already been terraformed by AI. You will have legal 'justice' in a world where your music no longer has any economic value.

@geoms6263
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So 😂

@PooKoolman
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They are afraid it will become meaningless sh*t replicating over and over?

@Samirustem
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Oh no, the massive music studios might lose a little bit of profit, what a tragedy...

@reiteration6273
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Considering how mediocre and politicised the music industry has become, the AI threat is the last thing you should be concerned about

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