Germany lose on penalties! Plus Brazil’s brilliant comeback
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Nagelsmann, Neuer and the Netherlands are going home after an enthralling day of World Cup action.
Nagelsmann wanted to dominate possession. Ok, so your squad has to be filled with pass masters that are ruthlessly consistent and precise on the ball. Your back line has to be pushed high up the pitch in order to really control the ball.
But, Germany didn't have Kroos, Mueller, Schweinsteiger, etc., to control possession well enough. There were too many sudden losses of possession to set up clear goal scoring opportunities and set pieces because Germany had to foul or put the ball out for a corner in emergency defense duty.
To play the way Nagelsmann wanted was impossible. We do not have the players for it. Nagelsmann should've been much more modest and pragmatic about his tactical choices given the players available to him, which by the way, the strength of this team given the players we did have, is defensive, not in possession. They should've been sitting much deeper, in a nice defensive shape, and go forward when you get the green light to do so. Then you can really get most out of Musiala and Sane, and Nmecha and Pavlovic as defending midfielders. But, Nagelsmann didn't want to do that and now we are cooked... again.
Jimbo, Tom Williams and Laurie Whitwell are by the pool in LA, taking in all the knockout action.
Germany lose a World Cup shootout for the first time ever, as Paraguay progress to the last 16. There’s also controversy after Jonathan Tah’s disallowed winner in extra-time. Raphael Honigstein is back.
Can we talk about how horrific these penalty shout-out tv angles are?
Morocco will face Canada in the last 16 after also winning an incredible penalty shootout against the Netherlands.
Brazil found themselves behind against Japan at half-time but find a way to the next round with Gabriel Martinelli’s last-gasp winner. Natalie Gedra watched it unfold.
In Portugal the nutmeg is called "cueca" literally "panty". Usually in conjunction with "dar uma cueca" "to give a panty".
Plus Tuesday’s fixtures and more on Iran’s exit.
00:00 Moment of the day
I don't know if anyone has pointed this out but both Netherlands and Germany had the choice of kit and which side was to take the first penalty. Netherlands, in addition, had the choice of ends for the penalties. Sometimes one can be spoilt for choice.
06:06 Paraguay knock out Germany on penalties with Raphael Honigstein
19:33 Morocco knock out Netherlands on penalties
FIFA before the tournament literally talked about how roughing up the goalkeeper will result in a foul. This isnt the premier league where that sort of play is promoted.
29:13 Brazil 2-1 Japan with Natalie Gedra
40:13 Iran versus the Homeland Security Secretary
43:06 Tuesday's fixtures
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The disallowed goal was called correctly. you don't touch the GK in the small box.
and Germany have been stinking for the past few years because there's practically no Germans in the team.
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"Normal contact" No. Theres no contact allowed to impede the keeper inside his 5m area. Thats why that box exists. Sure enough calls are too light often to protect the keeper outside his area, but not inside it. Also even if the Paraguayns failed to protest, thats not a reason to not give the foul. If that was the criteria, then the protestations would be constantly going on.
@pahakuuttiFor the appreciation of any non-German speaker out here... One of the guys says Germany got knocked out on "Elfmeisterscheißen" which is the best mispronunciation ever :) It should be "Elfmeterschießen" (literally: eleven meter shooting), but what he said instead basically means "eleven champion shitting" which is one way of describing the German team's performance :D Maybe I'm the only one who thinks this is funny but I just thought I'd share
@andreaxxxxxxEngland never done it that badly wow
@ac1dP1nkThe disallowed goal on Germany is one of those scenarios where I tend to agree it wasn't a foul but also think it was stupid to put his hands on the keeper at all.
@MrNiceNSmoothHe only threw Martinelli on coz he's a fellow Italiano 😜
@oliverhiston4223I REFUSE TO ACKNOWLEDGE DEFEAT, TAH GOT ROBBED!!!1
With that out of the way, as a German I can just laugh. Did I expect this team to win the thing? Hell no. But still, they were remarkably terrible defensively throughout the tournament and uninspired in possession. More terrible than the names would suggest but the DFB just finds a way to get the least out of a middling squad compared to historic ones in this country.
Cheers Paraguay for a lot of heart and deservedly sending our team home even if this one game could have gone either way. Frankly it wasn’t even really a team considering the lack of any visible tactical discipline.
Socks on for Jimbo today, that'll be socks off tomorrow then.
@trickyjabsBusiest day of world football we have ever seen? Also - Voltemade = Crouch/Voller hybrid?
@chrisd6982I just dont think Nagelsmann is as good a manager as he thinks he is.
@PoornoobtrollI thought that was up there as one of the best World Cup days ever. The drama!
@ianor2304No one in Germany would have liked to see our team torn apart by France in the next round... it ended where it was meant to end. Congrats to Paraguay. Klopp in. New era.
@zarste74"He's not holding back is he," says Laurie about the comments by the US official on Iran exit. No Laurie, it's absolutely outrageous but unsurprising to hear that considering the obstacles they put in place against the Iranian team
@TakerfanaticWas absolutely a foul by Anton during the corner. Before the tournament FIFA made it clear that any contact with the keeper while the ball is in play won't be tolerated.
Anton's eyes are fully on the keeper and not the ball.
And in terms of the keeper "going down too easily" everywhere else on the pitch players go down easily to ensure they win a foul, and most times it is actually a foul as well, the going to ground just seals it.
Just because Arsenal got away with murder on corners in the Premier league this past season, doesn't mean it was the wrong decision. It was a foul on the keeper, all day every day.
@gylduran9217Both penalty shootouts had some absolutely dreadful penalties 😂The art of penalty taking is dead.
@gylduran9217Laurie Whitwell in for Duncan is the worst substitution of the World Cup
@stemiller1978Tah's goal was a foul, Arsenal and PL refereeing have infected our brains to think that screening the GK is OK to do in football. Not many good decisions by FIFA, but clamping down on set piece pushing and shoving is their best decision this tournament.
@atem4652Love the introductory swivel from AC Jimbo at the start! ❤
@ajam27Great podcast. I understand the contact of the German player with the goalkeeper was light, but he didn't have any bussiness pushing the goalkeeper on a set piece. I can see the referree going either way with that decision.
Regarding the game Germany wasn't great, but in all fairness I think they did enough to beat Paraguay. Of course Paraguay deserve credit for their deffending, but 99% of their game was just deffending in a very deep low block and score the only 1 chance they created in the whole game. I like an underdog performing, but I also like attractive football and Paraguay's football wasn't pretty.
I was critical of Laurie in his first appearance but tbf he's been better since
@randomname285Germany should have left the field when their second goal was dissatisfied. A bit like Senegal did in the AFCON.
Refereeing has been mostly great so far apart from this 'goal', the 'penalty' on Embappe and a couple of other spectacularly wrong decisions.
Thanks for the pod
@rodrigorivero3181As a German, some thoughts about the penalty shooting:
1. Paraguay was very well prepared and had analyzed all of Germany's shooters intensively. I don't know if Nagelsmann's team did the same to that degree, because they were surely expecting a win in 90 minutes.
2. You could literally see the fear on the faces of some of the players, like Harvertz or Woltemade, when they took their shots. As the favorite, you face a different kind of pressure during a penalty shootout than the outsider.
3. How can someone like Woltemade develop confidence if he's on the bench for the whole group stage, even in the mostly meaningless game against Ecuador, and is then suddenly thrown into a knockout game and a penalty shooting? Nagelsmann's lack of good handling of players (also seen in the Neuer/Baumann controversy), almost as if players are lifeless chess figures, has been among the things for which one can most clearly critisize him.
EPL supporters don’t understand that it’s illegal to impede the movement of opposition players.
@Bast_OEMy understanding was a football "nutmeg" is the same reason Connecticut is the "Nutmeg State". It has to do with us tricky colonials fashioning wooden nutmegs and mixing them in with real (and at the time quite valuable) nutmegs and then selling them.
@natrawson18:40 might’ve missed the edit there a bit haha
@aidan_sen123Germany came in looking like the machine. Paraguay? They were supposed to be the warm-up act.
Turns out, the machine had a few loose screws. 😎. Paraguay didn't just play—they frustrated, they fought, they took it to penalties, and sent the coloniser packing. One more empire falls. One more giant humbled. The round of 32 is not for the faint-hearted—or the entitled.🥸🇵🇾
no duncan no party
@LinoOverdriveThe fact that Rafa didn't correct your 'Elfmeterscheissen' is a fireable offence!
@berniebondDoesn´t the ref blow the final whistle when the last penalty gets in/its saved?
If the player gets the shirt off after that there´s no reason for a yellow.
Great to see Bono finally making himself useful - where clean sheets have no name.
@CheLumumbaThe standard of football has been God awful so far, it's like I've stepped back in time to 1982 World Cup except there's no brilliant Brazilian team to light the tournament up. Every knockout game so far as been a dull defensive kick fest.
My prediction is Mbappe to get a career ending injury and English and Irish pundits to compliment the ref for letting everyone play on.
With these refs coaches should just send their players out to kick Messi and Mbappe out of the game because they'll probably get away with it.
If you believe dissident groups and the U.S. intelligence assessments, Iran attempted to bring IRC members into the country via the soccer team.
@jeffreysims9127These hypocrite germans deserve it so much. Enjoy your flight 😂😂
@nkayyy188James - 800 dollars is horrendous,like all pricing this world cup...so it's a no from me 😮.
@seandoran2209Natalie Gedra is the only person I know who seems to have a smile in her voice
@tonimoroni742Maybe Germany should try picking Germans again
@Daniboi971Wow, Tom's finger is really long
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