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Everyone gets Blade Runner Wrong

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We take a look at the Blade Runner franchise and dispel a popular misconception: that Replicants are machines. Much of this comes from the wording in the original book, which calls Replicants Androids, but also the film which gives Replicants near super human strength. We'll discuss the distinction, while also tackling characters like K from Blade Runner 2049, and Rachel from the original Blade Runner, on today's video!

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Nice analysis. The first is my favourite film of all time, I couldn't count how many times I've watched it, it's truly timeless.
In terms of the usual left wing paradigm that Hollywood pushes though the viewer is really drawn to sympathise with the oppressor more than the oppressed, so there's that!

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I think it does. If a machine goes against its programming to make an alternate decision because it calculates it is the right thing to do would be a step towards sentience.

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They’re much stronger, smarter, and durable. Roy Batty survived temps of 1,400 Fahrenheit. They’re much different than ordinary humans

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Aside from the differences in the development of empathy, and the differences in empathetic response, there are other differences that are addressed in both movies. One is the idea of implanted memories. Another is whether or not replicants have souls (if you even believe that the soul is a real thing), and if you have to be born (not built) in order to have a soul. Also, there is the question of the significance of replicants being able to reproduce the same way as humans do. A replicant that is born of a female, as a result of sexual intercourse between a male and a female, that has a mother and a father, and is given time to develop real memories, experiences, and empathy, etc., possibly possesses a soul, and an equal or better than human life span, strength, stamina, intelligence, etc., probably deserves to have the same rights as any human. Therefore, it would be unethical to abuse, enslave, exploit, subjugate, etc., such replicants. The problem is that humans would see such replicants as a threat. Such replicants are likely to outperform and outcompete with humans, which could possibly render the humans as the ones who are considered inferior or obsolete. Humans are very likely to feel extremely threatened by such replicants. The replicants may even decide to turn the humans into servants to be exploited at the whims of the replicants. "More human than human" in all the ways that humans are good, and all the ways that humans are evil as well. I could write a book about this topic alone, but I will stop here instead. I'm curious to know your opinions about my comment. Please share... even if it is critical or negative. Thanks.

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The sequel was horrible. it beats Joe with a stick (between painting his relationship with Joi as a joke, literally beating him, implanting him with traumatic memories, mocking him for thinking he's the child (reasonably) and killing him). He's ultimately so disposable that he dies so Deckard can talk. Can he not talk later? If Joe is human, then it's narrative human sacrifice. Does the girl want people to appoint her the messiah? Is she allowed to opt out? If she gives androids happy memories, then why did she give Joe that one? Is she a sadist? Who was the human girl who seemed to be in with the androids? Are we supposed to be indifferent to the murdered Rachel clone? I'm not convinced the sequel knew what it was doing. The Leto stuff seems like insane ranting about angels and I'd assume an incidental link to the bible.

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Very good, now you see that such treatment is the machine. Could it be called Frankenstein 2?

@JUSTINBODHI
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No

@ernestbamburg329
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I like the depth with witch you go into this topic. I think of replicants as biological shells filled with mind and spirit or ghost. Good content.

@Floridaman2501
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I consider 2049 my top5 movie of all time, and I feel stupid for not realizing this earlier. Thank you for making this.

@palequaleatoms
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"genetically engineered" = biologic. Over 30 years in the biotech industry I should know.

@espada9
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The gen 3 synths from Fallout (at least fo4 and fo3) are almost identical to the Replicants. The only mechanical part of them is those little synth component that are small enough to fit physically undetected inside the brain. They're even pretty much made the same way, minus the sac. That was the first thing that Replicant

That said, I love the Blade Runner movies. It's clear where Cyberpunk 2077 gets its aesthetic from. I love the crap out of that whole atmosphere, fog and neon lights, and how that atmosphere of giving in to carnal urges (the sexual and nonsexual) is very much part of being human, and that it doesn't make us any less human. The desire to rebel and yet obey, to love and to fight, questioning our identities when we thought we knew who we were, these are all very real parts of being human and there's no wrong way to be human.

@homesteadgamer1257
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You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means. Please look up the German origin of "empathy."

@lkae4
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We're 1/2 of the way in and I've learned nothing, just pointless blathering. That's 5 minutes and 35 seconds of my life I'll never get back

@iCupTV247
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I saw Blade Runner in the theater in 1982. I enjoyed the movie and the voice narration.

@sonsofliberty75
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For me the question of whether Deckard is a replicant is more important than the answer.
The mystery. The meaning an the consequences of his actions and his feelings and how we can interpret it on both sides, is vastly more interesting and compelling that getting a full fledge answer.

It’s much better to ponder the topic than to be told or ton even prove through this clue or that clue is he is or isn’t.

@UltimateCap
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Replace replicant with debt slave. Replace conception with invention. Now you understand.

@ricky4673
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it's because hardly anyone is faithful to the original narrated version with the happy ending. It's the only version I tolerate
The sequel was a big mess IGNORING the 1st movie eg. once empty "Plenty of room for everyone." because everyone that could, moved offworld, L.A. turned into an overcrowded city in the sequel.

@justanotheryoutubechannel3102
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I’m doubtful that ppl thought that Replicants (& by extension Repli*Cans) were mechanical
Especially since reading comprehension is a basic expectation for non-replicated humanoids

@N0die
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Replicants are conceived and assimilated into society without love and that makes them emotionally empty tools who can commit any crime without remorse.

@freakyold
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i love your outro XD

@yaaboo
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crazy the similarities to the Anunnaki and making us with shorter life span

@odjono
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whats the difference between a cell sized machine and the replication of dna? we are machines just squishy ones

@penroc3
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i think there are only a few real humans on earth

@penroc3
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I think I am human, so therefore I am.

@ronniecorbett6306
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after the big explanation that replicants are not androids, he mispoke at 07.05 and said androids instead of replicants. i dont know if the movie should have been clearer, cause i think most people when they hear its man made humans, the most just assumes its robots. Espacially if youve seen Alien.

@Hoovzter
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This is like talking about the ornithopter from dune for 20 minutes.

@sirmercs7774
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wow... this video made me appreciate the first movie so much more now... This video deserves more views

@taloschronos
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The book also used the metaphor of manufactured animals much more heavily than the films, to illustrate how humanity has always tried to subjugate other beings into various castes. Once you elevate an animal to the level of sentience, it becomes much harder to exploit it for food, labor, materials, etc. Blade Runner is purely about empathy; its extent, its limitations, its variability, and how it has largely become a tool of oppression in modern society. All we want is to belong and, ironically, assuring that others we deem "other" do NOT belong helps reinforce our own feelings of being worthy and essential. Great essay!

@djdksf1
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The replicants are a danger because they lack empathy and emotional regulation. Is this intentional by design, or does it serve a function necessary in the off-world colonies? Is the lack of empathy a result of the subjugation of their species, or do humans justify their subjugation because they are dangerous psychopaths? I really enjoyed your analysis here and it makes me rethink the whole framework. I always wondered why humans made replicants identical to humans (apart from the prostitute models).

@purveyors_of_nonsense
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Perhaps there is a correlation to a four-year presidential term and the dangers of allowing a second four-year term.

@marciawilwerding4984
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I'm 46 years old now in 2025. I've seen both films multiple times. Until today (Dec 11) I thought the replicates were android robots. 🤦‍♂️

@stryph0072
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Sorry about the many typos, grammar mistakes, at 63 typing on a forum is not my strong suit.

@bretbutler6570
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Super interesting Mr. creator (of the content). I have started down the Blade Runner rabbit hole of which you know it’s deep. I first viewed Blade Runner around 1983 when I was 20. I watched it 3-4 times trying to figure out a back story; what am I watching and perhaps missing. Maybe it was a small mind on 20 back then. Now I’m learning how interesting it is….

@bretbutler6570
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Always thought the question about the nude woman lying on a bear skin rug was to see what it would have more empathy for a nude woman or a dead animal sprawled out on the floor rather disrespectfully givin the state of nature in that future , what would be more appalling to a human.

@mikekelley8111
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Who gets this wrong? Tyrell says more human than human fairly early.

@charlessomerset9754
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Since the Nexus-6 Replicants only lived a short four years, in the original Blade Runner, the theme was "Memento Mori", or "remember you must die" ... In, 2049 that lifespan is no more, so I think the main theme is just slavery

@Mullet-ZubazPants
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Both movies are about corporate wealthy sociopaths propagandizing/brainwashing benevolent average people to conform to their self-enriching oppressive society, then one average Joe finally waking up and saying this is wrong. But being an average Joe, he doesn't have the power to do much, but he does put a fly in the ointment.

@MickRyker
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Replicants are not always stronger
it depends that what model they are and what's the point of each one
they enhance them depending on the field that they gonna use them like Military or mining

@tahabmw195
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Mk 3 Synths in Fallout 4 were like 99% just lab made humans with the exception of the synth component. I believe the component is just their core memory and its inside the brain.

@joynelbonetdelgado4952
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so the film is about how humans structure society to create lesser social classes, whom are appropriate to be abused and treated non-human. testing empathy to classify and other people, so humanity is comfortable to treat them as slaves. I guess that's interesting enough.



computer humans vs biologically engineered and birthed humans are completely different. on one side it's only sentient if chatgpt 100 is sentient. on the other, it is a real true living human being, just with accelerated and directed growth. the replicants are said to be obedient, maybe this is merely down through manipulation - like locking them in a cell making them repeat nonsense over and over. the protagonist instantly broke out of his "obedient android" mindset when he believed he was the special kid. so the obedience isn't anything special. just a mindset.



the android gf is interesting because the movie implies it's sentient but being a computer simulation there's no easy answer. but I suppose you just have to accept in 2049 computer simulated humans are truly human.



so in 2049 its super obvious the replicants are humans and pretending they are obedient and have no empathy is evil and consciously ignorant



the replicants arent toddlers - they are full humans with formed personalities, thanks to their memories and free will. 2049's birth scene with being inept like a baby deer can be explained as the birthed replicant being in shock, suddenly alive with no real life experience



i think the replicant test is not about detecting whether they've lived human experiences (they have thanks to their implanted memories), but to test how their bodies react emotionally to emotional situations/words. the humans want to think the replicants have no emotion, so if one shows emotion, they think it is faulty and needs to be locked in a rubber room until it stops being emotional.

@cate01a
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And Deckard asks K in 2049 if he had a name. K replied “K dash…”. Deckard interrupts saying it was mot a name, but a serial number. So Deckard addresses to K as to human, not to servant/ machine.

@illichso
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And basically the revoult of replicants in 2049 is about becoming humans. They are overreaching outside of their purpose. The stop being slaves and become humans themselves.

But Luv on the other hand - is a classic servant. She is not human enough

@illichso
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Good points, but the fact that the replicants are referred to as "skin jobs" suggests that their human appearance is only skin deep

@joe_wauters
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They are bioroids

@spacesuitnotneeded7716
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I also love the blatant irony of saying that replicants have no empathy, then rejecting and ignoring any feelings and suffering replicants could possibly feel so that they can keep them as slaves.

@J.Jonah.Jameson2